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so when we anchor ,we know we should not rely on the windlass to old the chain ,so we should have some form of hold on the chain from the side cleats ,nor the problem is reaching the chain from the bow, I don't really whant to use the dingy to reach the chain . What do you do ,ps boat is a sealine 42/5
 
seastoke said:
so when we anchor ,we know we should not rely on the windlass to old the chain ,so we should have some form of hold on the chain from the side cleats ,nor the problem is reaching the chain from the bow, I don't really whant to use the dingy to reach the chain . What do you do ,ps boat is a sealine 42/5
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If you mean you want to attach the spring to the chain a few feet from the bow and you can't reach it, the answer is to attach the spring to the chain close to the bow. Then let out sufficient chain and spring until the point where the one joins the other is where you want it to be. Make fast the spring to a cleat and pay out more chain so that the chain goes slack and the load is taken on the spring.
 
I can see why you would struggle to attach any "form of hold" to the chain on your boat. With open bow rollers it's obviously easier.
You might try one of these things, which I think is what Hurricane suggested.
After attaching the line(s) to the round-ish ring, you can hang it from the bow and with some practice (and luck!) make it grab the chain.
Once done that, it's just a matter of securing the line/s to the bow cleat/s, while keeping the lines under tension, otherwise the thingie self-releases from the chain.

One easier alternative is not to do what you said you should.
Actually, I also prefer to release the chain tension from the windlass, particularly when overnighting.
But that's more to avoid the occasional grinding noise on the roller than anything else.
In fact, some forum members just don't bother, and I've yet to hear of someone whose windlass was ripped off the deck by the chain tension.
 
FARSCO said:
Get a bit of rope. Hook in the middle....loops either end.

Loops on the bow cleats....hook onto the chain....let the chain out till the bridle setup takes the weight and the chain from windlass is slack.

When leaving....pull in chain a bit and take off hook.....go home :)

https://jimmygreen.com/chain-hooks-and-grabs/19084-chain-hook

Sorry poignard....saying the same as you but with words Roy knows :):):)
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There we go. We have a winner. Obviously Welsh schooled. Poor beggar
 
MapisM said:
In fact, some forum members just don't bother, and I've yet to hear of someone whose windlass was ripped off the deck by the chain tension.
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That wont happen. Strip gears is a good probability though. We are not in the Med here. On occasion we do get it wrong and 50% of sleep time is on the forward bed, 50% on the cabin ceiling. Ask Roy all about Porth Dinllaen in a North Wind. Even when you are on a windward shore, late summer will see you doing a slalom course through the anchorage as the boat goes bow to the wind, taut chain, chain pulls boat forward beam to wind, wind pushes boat back and snatches as the bow is pulled into the wind again. Welsh Med. Cant beat it :nonchalance:
 
BruceK said:
That wont happen. Strip gears is a good probability though. We are not in the Med here. On occasion we do get it wrong and 50% of sleep time is on the forward bed, 50% on the cabin ceiling. Ask Roy all about Porth Dinllaen in a North Wind. Even when you are on a windward shore, late summer will see you doing a slalom course through the anchorage as the boat goes bow to the wind, taut chain, chain pulls boat forward beam to wind, wind pushes boat back and snatches as the bow is pulled into the wind again. Welsh Med. Cant beat it :nonchalance:
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Yes ask me ,what is he on about
 
Im trying to pop your cherry you marina queen. Just get the chain hook, trying to teach you how to tie a camel hitch would take too long
 
MapisM said:
I can see why you would struggle to attach any "form of hold" to the chain on your boat. With open bow rollers it's obviously easier.
You might try one of these things, which I think is what Hurricane suggested.
After attaching the line(s) to the round-ish ring, you can hang it from the bow and with some practice (and luck!) make it grab the chain.
Once done that, it's just a matter of securing the line/s to the bow cleat/s, while keeping the lines under tension, otherwise the thingie self-releases from the chain.

One easier alternative is not to do what you said you should.
Actually, I also prefer to release the chain tension from the windlass, particularly when overnighting.
But that's more to avoid the occasional grinding noise on the roller than anything else.
In fact, some forum members just don't bother, and I've yet to hear of someone whose windlass was ripped off the deck by the chain tension.
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AFAIK it's not to avoid ripping the windlass off the deck: it's to avoid long-term wear and stress on the internal gears.
 
FARSCO said:
Marina Queen :D:D:D

I’ll get a sticker made up and whack it on his boat when he’s not looking
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:D :encouragement:

Good luck. Stick it under the anchor where he cant see. He spends more time fondling that boat with Wash n Wax than he does helming it.
 
The other reason to have a NYLON snubber is it will substantially reduce chain noise in a forward berth. I find it is quieter to have the snubber line on the bow roller rather than a fairlead.

Why nylon well you want a stretchy line to reduce snatching. If you only anchor occasionally a short snubber with a galvanized hook will do. I have a SS hook and my snubber is 30 ft. About once a year in wild conditions I use the full length to try and reduce snatching.

Ignore anyone who tells you to use a knot to connect the snubber to the chain. When it is 4 am, pitch black, raining stair rods, blowing 40 knots and you are dragging you do not want to have to deal with that knot which is beyond undoing and requires the bread knife.
 
I think this is the kind of thing that is being suggested

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We used to do this all the time to take the load off the windlass - remember that the windlass has a cone clutch - so I wouldn't want to spend the night at the mercy of just a clutch.

We have now fitted one of these:-

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Which we use all the time,
But if there are people sleeping in the forward cabin, we usually stick the bridle with the chain lock on - to stop the chain rolling over the bow roller all night.
 
I’ve anchored for many weeks each year for the past 10 years. I simply drop the chain, set the pawl that takes the pressure off the windlass gears, make sure the anchor is set, and that’s it. I’ve never dragged, even in gale force winds, and although I do have an anchor chain hook, I can’t remember the last time I used it.
 
TQA said:
The other reason to have a NYLON snubber is it will substantially reduce chain noise in a forward berth. I find it is quieter to have the snubber line on the bow roller rather than a fairlead.

Why nylon well you want a stretchy line to reduce snatching. If you only anchor occasionally a short snubber with a galvanized hook will do. I have a SS hook and my snubber is 30 ft. About once a year in wild conditions I use the full length to try and reduce snatching.

Ignore anyone who tells you to use a knot to connect the snubber to the chain. When it is 4 am, pitch black, raining stair rods, blowing 40 knots and you are dragging you do not want to have to deal with that knot which is beyond undoing and requires the bread knife.
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I've given him a snubber. A camel hitch is quicker and easier to undo than any pawl or chain hook. Are you familiar with this hitch?
 
BruceK said:
:D :encouragement:

Good luck. Stick it under the anchor where he cant see. He spends more time fondling that boat with Wash n Wax than he does helming it.
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:D
When seastoke was chuckin his boat back in a couple of weeks ago
I did try for 5 mins to show him some knots
It was 3 minutes too long
I could tell when His eyes glazed over during the round turn and two half hitches
Think we need a knot session Bruce
Too many years of wiring things has meddled with his cranium!:D
 
Hurricane said:
I think this is the kind of thing that is being suggested

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We used to do this all the time to take the load off the windlass - remember that the windlass has a cone clutch - so I wouldn't want to spend the night at the mercy of just a clutch.

We have now fitted one of these:-

ZLEWL66840077.jpg


Which we use all the time,
But if there are people sleeping in the forward cabin, we usually stick the bridle with the chain lock on - to stop the chain rolling over the bow roller all night.
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Thats the way forward Hurricane:encouragement:
 
If you want him to follow the knot with full attention, gaffa tape a can of beer to the end. His eyes will never leave it nor ever glaze over.
 
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