graham
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Re: Weight has got (almost) nothing to do with it
I knew as Iwas typing it that someone would go of at a tangent....
I knew as Iwas typing it that someone would go of at a tangent....
pugwash
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Doubling up
Interesting questions and more than enough scary stuff! Let's say you're anchoring for the night and conditions are just a little tougher than you want but you might get away with it. So would it help to put two anchors in line? In my case a CQR with chain is the main anchor and I'd shackle a Fortress with a bit of chain to the front of it. This would seem to be better than two anchors spread apart. Am I right? Is this a safe and proper thing to do?
Interesting questions and more than enough scary stuff! Let's say you're anchoring for the night and conditions are just a little tougher than you want but you might get away with it. So would it help to put two anchors in line? In my case a CQR with chain is the main anchor and I'd shackle a Fortress with a bit of chain to the front of it. This would seem to be better than two anchors spread apart. Am I right? Is this a safe and proper thing to do?
sailbadthesinner
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Anchor dragged last year in Ibiza on a cat i had chartered. Being shallow draft we were at the head of the bay. We pulled up reset, dragged again. Pilot had said holding was patchy but we had dropped in what looked good. Wind upto f6 funnelling by now, so we decided to nose out. Looked behind us all hell had broken loose. Huge phantom had dragged and picked up 2 30ft yacht's chains with it
three yachts were dragging towards rocks only 2 of the crews were up. Everyone else was picking up their hooks. It was total chaos we had to hold the boat until there was a gap to get out.
the anchor was totally in adequate for such a big high sided boat.
I always worry more about have i got right amount of chain more than the anchor.
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three yachts were dragging towards rocks only 2 of the crews were up. Everyone else was picking up their hooks. It was total chaos we had to hold the boat until there was a gap to get out.
the anchor was totally in adequate for such a big high sided boat.
I always worry more about have i got right amount of chain more than the anchor.
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billmacfarlane
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Re: Doubling up
I've posted threads about this and it seems to be the most popular ( and easiest ) way to lay 2 anchors. My main anchor is a Bruce on 55m chain and I've a Fortress I can shackle on and 3 short pieces of chain I can use. Can someone please tell me EXACTLY where to shackle the short length of chain to e.g is it on to a link on the main chain just above the main anchor shackle or swivel ?
I've posted threads about this and it seems to be the most popular ( and easiest ) way to lay 2 anchors. My main anchor is a Bruce on 55m chain and I've a Fortress I can shackle on and 3 short pieces of chain I can use. Can someone please tell me EXACTLY where to shackle the short length of chain to e.g is it on to a link on the main chain just above the main anchor shackle or swivel ?
pugwash
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Re: Doubling up
Two questions: Does it make a difference which anchor you lay first and should you try to dig it in before laying the second (if depth allows)? What happens when the tide turns -- is there a danger of one anchhor fouling the other and creating even less hold than one by itself? (As you can guess, I haven';t actually done it yet but it must be good sense, or is it?)
Two questions: Does it make a difference which anchor you lay first and should you try to dig it in before laying the second (if depth allows)? What happens when the tide turns -- is there a danger of one anchhor fouling the other and creating even less hold than one by itself? (As you can guess, I haven';t actually done it yet but it must be good sense, or is it?)
LadyInBed
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Re: where to shackle
I always shackle to the tripping line ring. Anywhere else and you can't guarantee a straight pull.
I always shackle to the tripping line ring. Anywhere else and you can't guarantee a straight pull.
Mr Cassandra
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Re: Doubling up
IMHO I sugest the eye that you would use for a tripping line cheers bob t
Bob T
IMHO I sugest the eye that you would use for a tripping line cheers bob t
Bob T
ToMo
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Re: Doubling up
May I please add which is the best combination from Bruce, Danforth & CQR, or is there another suggested mix.
Thanks
TôMö
May I please add which is the best combination from Bruce, Danforth & CQR, or is there another suggested mix.
Thanks
TôMö
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Re:Bruce Anchors
Had a similar experience when we ran out of water on the Langford Grounds sandbanks in the upper bristol channel, as it was starting to blow up and looked as though we would get a bumpy ride when we floated off,I decided to walk out across the sands with our anchor to get plenty of scope out, and dropped it into a water filled depression which basicly turned out to be quicksand.The anchor shot down as though it had been thrown down a well,and when we did float off I thought that eventually the bouyancy of the boat a Hurley 22 would lift it,with all the scope in and with the bow definitely being pulled down we gave up and had to cut the chain with a hacksaw,it was a sobering experience. With reference to someones earlier posting about anchoring on soft clay I have found a Fisherman to be the best sort as other types do not dig in but slide on the surface.
Had a similar experience when we ran out of water on the Langford Grounds sandbanks in the upper bristol channel, as it was starting to blow up and looked as though we would get a bumpy ride when we floated off,I decided to walk out across the sands with our anchor to get plenty of scope out, and dropped it into a water filled depression which basicly turned out to be quicksand.The anchor shot down as though it had been thrown down a well,and when we did float off I thought that eventually the bouyancy of the boat a Hurley 22 would lift it,with all the scope in and with the bow definitely being pulled down we gave up and had to cut the chain with a hacksaw,it was a sobering experience. With reference to someones earlier posting about anchoring on soft clay I have found a Fisherman to be the best sort as other types do not dig in but slide on the surface.
