Anchor remote control

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I have a Jeanneau leader 33 and the anchor control is a remote control on a wire that is location in the anchor locker.
I find this a bit of a pain having to go to the locker each time does anyone know if you can fit any type of after market device to operate the anchor from either your phone or a wireless remote so it can be operated from the helm

Thanks All
 
lanerboy said:
I have a Jeanneau leader 33 and the anchor control is a remote control on a wire that is location in the anchor locker.
I find this a bit of a pain having to go to the locker each time does anyone know if you can fit any type of after market device to operate the anchor from either your phone or a wireless remote so it can be operated from the helm

Thanks All
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I have just fitted this





About £100 quid off Amazon and works brilliantly
2-Button 12-24V AC/DC Wireless Crane Remote Control Industrial Radio Controller for Electric Chain Hoist Overhead Bridge Lifting Crane Transmitter and Receiver : Amazon.co.uk: Business, Industry & Science

I have it hooked up to both the thruster and the windlass
 
lanerboy said:
I have a Jeanneau leader 33 and the anchor control is a remote control on a wire that is location in the anchor locker.
I find this a bit of a pain having to go to the locker each time does anyone know if you can fit any type of after market device to operate the anchor from either your phone or a wireless remote so it can be operated from the helm

Thanks All
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Most windlass controllers just close small switches which then control the “relay” for the winch. It shouldn’t be particularly complex to add a second set of controls in parallel either wireless or wired. Personally if I was doing that to work from the help I’d want a camera so I could see if the chain was actually feeding in/out nicely. Your chain/windless/gypsy/mud may play nicer than mine does.
 
Wireless remotes are usually easy to fit, inexpensive, and a great improvement.

There are fundamentally two types. The industrial crane winch controls (an example is shown in post #2) and the 4x4 winch controls (such as the link provided in post #6). Both these types have several variations made by different companies.

Having used both, I find the extra cost of the industrial units worthwhile, but many are very happy with the cheaper 4x4 models. Both are better than foot switches or a wired remote in many circumstances and personally I only use my wired remote to test it still works.
 
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Although the winch remotes will do the job, if you're not near the tackle as it's laid, a remote with chain counter can be useful so you know how much scope you've laid and also a good guide that the anchor has come off the bottom when raising (ie bow's about to go downwind).
 
noelex said:
Wireless remotes are usually easy to fit, inexpensive, and a great improvement.

There are fundamentally two types. The industrial crane winch controls (an example is shown in post #2) and the 4x4 winch controls (such as the link provided in post #6). Both these types have several variations made by different companies.

Having used both, I find the extra cost of the industrial units worthwhile, but many are very happy with the cheaper 4x4 models. Both are better than foot switches or a wired remote in many circumstances and personally I only use my wired remote to test it still works.
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The other benefit of the 'crane' style remotes is that you have to first of all reset the emergency stop and press the green button to activate it.

So if you chuck it in a locker and forget to isolate the windlass / bow thruster, there is no chance of it accidentally activating.
 
A lot of the AWB makers seem to fit the Quick remote inside the locker using the plug and socket intended for demountable (deck mounted) installations.

It's not needed and leads to corroded connections, snapped off pins etc. Hard wiring inside a waterproof jb is much more preferable.
 
jakew009 said:
The other benefit of the 'crane' style remotes is that you have to first of all reset the emergency stop and press the green button to activate it.

So if you chuck it in a locker and forget to isolate the windlass / bow thruster, there is no chance of it accidentally activating.
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There is switch on the winch remotes i linked to, has to be turned on. But, of far more importance, there should be a switch on the helm to isolate the windlass control circuit to prevent accidentally energising the windlass.
 
jakew009 said:
The other benefit of the 'crane' style remotes is that you have to first of all reset the emergency stop and press the green button to activate it.
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The advantages of the industrial crane units that I appreciate most are their more rugged, reliable and waterproof construction (although they are still not very waterproof) , the use of standard AA batteries, and the reduction in "lag". The 4x4 units suffer a sometimes annoying lag where even the shortest press of the button retrieves a reasonable amount of chain. This can make "parking" the anchor in the storage position more difficult for some installations.

Also, the more powerful transmitter of the industrial units means a greater range without dropouts, but this is only a factor if you have a metal boat. With our aluminium boat, we found the range of the 4x4 units was such that they would not work reliably from the helm or stern of the boat (the industrial units are fine), but this drawback does not apply to most fibreglass boats. Aluminium is good at blocking radio signals.

Whether these features are worth the extra cost of the industrial units is something everyone needs to decide, but as they are not "marine" products, they are still great value for money.
 
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Boathook said:
I didn't notice any lag, etc on the one (mentioned in post 6) that I fitted to my windlass. My boat was only 30 foot so I was always close to the base unit.
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Perhaps "lag" is not the best term to describe the problem. It is not a delay between pressing the button and something happening, but rather a delay when releasing the button and the windlass stopping rotation.

The effect is to lengthen the minimum amount of chain that can be retrieved. Perhaps not all windlasses exhibit the problem when operated with the 4x4 wireless controllers, but it is certainly a common complaint. Fortunately, it is an annoying rather than a severe issue, but it is nicer to have a windlass that stops as quickly as possible after the button is released.
 
noelex said:
Perhaps "lag" is not the best term to describe the problem. It is not a delay between pressing the button and something happening, but rather a delay when releasing the button and the windlass stopping rotation.

The effect is to lengthen the minimum amount of chain that can be retrieved. Perhaps not all windlasses exhibit the problem when operated with the 4x4 wireless controllers, but it is certainly a common complaint. Fortunately, it is an annoying rather than a severe issue, but it is nicer to have a windlass that stops as quickly as possible after the button is released.
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I didn't notice any delay when releasing the button either for the unit to stop. I was pleased by how responsive it was but didn't use it to much as I didn't have a chain counter and preferred to be at the bows mainly to clean weed off the chain.
 
Nice to know. This must vary from windlass to windlass, or perhaps they have improved the design?
 
noelex said:
Nice to know. This must vary from windlass to windlass, or perhaps they have improved the design?
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'The delay in the detection of the windlass is a s a result of the remote control Sending the on signal all the time and on releasing he on button the receiver must detect the loss of the on signal to release the operating relay/

The type I use also has a setup where the transmitter can be setup for a single press on and a single press off or instantons i.e press on release for off
 
rogerthebodger said:
'The delay in the detection of the windlass is a s a result of the remote control Sending the on signal all the time and on releasing he on button the receiver must detect the loss of the on signal to release the operating relay/
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But the tiny delay only seems to happen with some windlasses, or more accurately i suspect, some contactors.
rogerthebodger said:
The type I use also has a setup where the transmitter can be setup for a single press on and a single press off or instantons i.e press on release for off
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That sounds like a dangerous option for a windlass !
 
PaulRainbow said:
But the tiny delay only seems to happen with some windlasses, or more accurately i suspect, some contactors.

That sounds like a dangerous option for a windlass!
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I would never use the single press on and a single press off on a windlass, but I do use that function on my driveway gates and on my garage doors with a more suffocated control system as I have been designing remote control systems for many years both industrial and domestic

https://flic.kr/p/WonBVw

On of my boat remotes controls

This is the pictures I took while constructing my boat mostly completed by myself

Roger Shaw’s albums | Flickr
 
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