American yachts

[Wansworth]

I guess under that boat is a deep fin keel,twin rudders which is ok but for my idealized type of sailing would include taking the ground in some small harbour,maybe to scrub off or whatever or maybe sailingup some muddy creek.A full keel with encapsulated ballast and stern post hung rudder is pretty bomb proof giving peace of mind,no records have to be broken and while the boatploughs along you can read a book or make tea………like slow food,we have slow sailing

 

[Fr J Hackett]

 

[Wansworth]

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[KevinV]

My limited experience of (older) American boats is that they have no shame about being built for cruising - so they have a higher coach roof for more head room, more light and something to hold on to /sit on. Also beamier (fatter) that their European contemporaries, giving more interior space. They sail well, but slower and steadier - exactly what their intended use is.

 

[Laser310]

I guess under that boat is a deep fin keel,twin rudders which is ok but for my idealized type of sailing would include taking the ground in some small harbour,maybe to scrub off or whatever or maybe sailingup some muddy creek.A full keel with encapsulated ballast and stern post hung rudder is pretty bomb proof giving peace of mind,no records have to be broken and while the boatploughs along you can read a book or make tea………like slow food,we have slow sailing

they offer it with a centerboard- a swing keel

 

[Frank Holden]

That's cool boat.

Making a good 24ft cruising boat is an accomplishment in itself, and the fact that it has appealing lines makes it even more of an accomplishment.

But, when you get up to say 40-50ft, expectations change.

I don't expect to get on the helm of that pacific seacraft and say "wow, this boat is just a joy to sail". It's going to be a bit of a tank: slow and not that responsive.

There are 40ft cruising boats that are capable of planing - but as far as I know, none are made in the USA

This type of boat, the JPK FC 39 for example, is not for everyone, but it's just right for some people. I don't think it's a bad looking boat either. Builders like RM, JPK, Pogo are building great boats, and increasingly buyers from the US are looking for these kinds of boats, not any of the boats built in the US.

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That is a very strange photo. The wake is running off at about 45º and there is about 10º or more of port helm on. It looks nice and 'yachty' though so should appeal to mug punters. And also any boat that needs people to hang their legs over the side to make it all work is just not suitable at any level for 'cruising'.

 

[Wansworth]

they offer it with a centerboard- a swing keel

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Got that wrong

 

[Stemar]

That is a very strange photo. The wake is running off at about 45º and there is about 10º or more of port helm on. It looks nice and 'yachty' though so should appeal to mug punters. And also any boat that needs people to hang their legs over the side to make it all work is just not suitable at any level for 'cruising'.

At first glance, it looks that way - wow- so much leeway, but on a second look, there's a wave off the port quarter that means we can't see most of the wake. She looks to be screaming along under a big gennaker . Of course there's some leeway, but not that much. That's close hauled Snapdragon territory.

As for the bodies on the rail, yes, they probably do make a difference - maybe 300kg, so it must help a bit, but I doubt they're making that much difference.

 

[serendipity66]

Another Catalina 34 here.
Chosen for its spacious interior, and use of interior cedar wood furniture.
We live on the boat 12 weeks plus a year and appreciate the American design.

 

[Wansworth]

Another Catalina 34 here.
Chosen for its spacious interior, and use of interior cedar wood furniture.
We live on the boat 12 weeks plus a year and appreciate the American design.

Can you illustrate your post

 

[Laser310]

At first glance, it looks that way - wow- so much leeway, but on a second look, there's a wave off the port quarter that means we can't see most of the wake. She looks to be screaming along under a big gennaker . Of course there's some leeway, but not that much. That's close hauled Snapdragon territory.

As for the bodies on the rail, yes, they probably do make a difference - maybe 300kg, so it must help a bit, but I doubt they're making that much difference.

remember that it has two rudders, and part of what you see is caused by the weather rudder, much of which is out of the water.

These are cruising boats - as far as i know they have not been raced much, if at all.

as far as the people hiking - some people just like to sit there. Sure, it helps a bit.

There is you tube channel, of an american couple - they couldn't find a suitable US-built cruising boat - who are on their second season of cruising one of these in France. I love the boat, and would buy one tomorrow if a used one came available.

JPK FC 39 Cyclops

https://www.youtube.com/@svcyclops/videos