Alderney Ring

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As a singlehanded sailor I'm still trying to improve on my anchor retrievement technique. For several reasons I haven't fitted a windlass so it takes a bit of an effort to get things done.
Main anchor weighs 35lb with 40m of 5/16 chain.
I'll most probably get some kind of chain pawl but I'd also like to hear opinions on the above mentioned Alderney ring.
Does anybody here use one and would it also work with an all chain rode? I suppose however that this could be a problem:

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Not very likely getting that out of my 6 HP engine, am I /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
What I really need is a solution how to do it under sail.
 
used to use one on our fishing boat and it did work on chain aswell as rope,we only had app. 6 mts. of chain but that did pull through as good as the rope.
 
OK if you are a fishing boat /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
You have still got to drag all the warp / chain on board, better to heave it up onto the bow IMO.

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Main anchor weighs 35lb with 40m of 5/16 chain.

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What size buoy would be needed to support a 35lb anchor?

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3 cu ft for anchor and chain.
 
Stick to the basics.
If you are old and decrepit enough, you will find the means of procuring a windlass of some sort.
I can't imagine trying to use this ring single-handed in a tight anchorage (With 6Hp)...
It's evil because it's an anti-angel!
 
Suppose you're right. Unfortunately I can't fit a windlass on deck and had to abandon the idea of fitting one on the mast. Reckon the chain pawl arrangement will have to do then!

Going to the gym might be a good idea too


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Have you considered taking a couple of lines with chain hooks back to either a mast winch, or sheet winches? Maybe a bit slow, but it is probably only for emergancy use.
 
I had a look at your post to see what sort of boat you have that can't accomodate a windlass, and I see it's a Benford 30.

Bit of "thread drift" now!

Would that be one of J.R.Benford's designs? Reason I ask is that I visited him at his office/boatyard [near Seattle?] about 35 years ago and I was very impressed with his imaginative designs. At that time he was mainly involved with ferrocement designs, and I was thinking of building a 35 ft Mercedes double-ended cutter to his design. In fact, I still have the 4- sheet study plan for it.
 
You're absolutely right, it's a Jay Benford design. A slightly modified version of one of his sailing dories:

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Tin Hau's built of plywood though, none of that nasty ferro stuff!
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Chandlers sell a chain stopper - about £35.

Have you considered an old SL Anchorman windlass? Manual vertical axis using a normal winch handle, very effective with nothing below decks. Don't know where your chain locker is, but the feed of the SL is forward and on my installation I have a chute which directs the chain into the locker under the forward bunk.
 
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Chandlers sell a chain stopper - about £35.

Have you considered an old SL Anchorman windlass? Manual vertical axis using a normal winch handle, very effective with nothing below decks. Don't know where your chain locker is, but the feed of the SL is forward and on my installation I have a chute which directs the chain into the locker under the forward bunk.

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I thought of that and I do like the idea of fitting a chute which would make it possible to store the chain under my bunk. At the moment it's stowed on deck which is far from ideal. However the chute or pipe would always divide the very limited space in the bow. Since this is where my only proper bunk is I'm not willing to give this space up.
However I've considered building a locker forward of the sampson post right into the pointy bit of the boat. No ideal place for putting a lot of weight either but certainly an improvement over the deck locker.
 
Yes, that is what I have. The other solution on the Golden Hind, Moondancer built by Mark Urry and featured a few years ago in the comics, was a hinged chute which folds up to the deack head and took the chain forward.

From what I remember of the layouts in the Benford catalogue, you could lead the chain back to the aft bulkhead of the forecabin. Quite a lot of Griffiths designs (can tell I am a fan) had this sort of stowage for the chain. Gets it away from the bow and leads one toward a mast mounted windlass.

Such problems are good for occupying our idle moments!
 
Not wishing to start an anchoring thread but you may find that a 10kg anchor is sufficient for your needs re 30ft boat.I used a Delta 10kg on my 31ft Moody & now have a new generation type anchor(a Rocna 10Kg) which I feel from use gives more holding power without increasing weight.It certainly sets quicker & seems to dig in deeper on our East Coast mud/sand.I know it depends on your type & duration of anchoring & your boat weight & windage etc .Just a thought.
 
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