AIS vessel type?

[RichardS]

This should be stickied as a classic Scuttlebutt thread.

If our small boats are not "Sailing Vessels", what are?

Perhaps Lasers or GP14s equipped with AIS transceivers?

Richard

 

[LadyInBed]

This should be stickied as a classic Scuttlebutt thread.

If our small boats are not "Sailing Vessels", what are?

Perhaps Lasers or GP14s equipped with AIS transceivers?

Richard

:encouragement:
Nowt so perverse as folk!
I won't even go near Brexit.

 

[prv]

All of the above leads me to believe there was a very good reason that they called it AIS - an 'I' for 'identification' - rather than ACAS.... with 'CA' for 'collision avoidance'.

For collision avoidance purposes surely other vessels will be basing their actions on either your lights or daymark - if shown.

For Class A it works, because the Navigational Status field transmits the applicable colregs categories:

• Under way using engine
• At anchor
• Not under command
• Restricted maneuverability
• Constrained by her draught
• Moored
• Aground
• Engaged in fishing
• Under way sailing
• Power-driven vessel towing astern (regional use)
• Power-driven vessel pushing ahead or towing alongside (regional use);

This is intended to be dynamic and should be easily selectable by the crew - it relies on them doing that, but so does hoisting or lowering a day-shape.

The problem is that when they designed the Class B protocol, for whatever reason they decided not to include this field. Seems daft to me since it's class B vessels that are most likely to use some of these, but that's what we're stuck with.

Pete

 

[Roberto]

fwiw, I copied the habit of singlehanded racers here (imoca and co) and when sailing alone I modify the name of my boat adding "solo sailor" at the end, actually I had to delete a few letters from the name as there were not enough available characters in the "boat name" field.

 

[Uricanejack]

fwiw, I copied the habit of singlehanded racers here (imoca and co) and when sailing alone I modify the name of my boat adding "solo sailor" at the end, actually I had to delete a few letters from the name as there were not enough available characters in the "boat name" field.

This does seam like a good idea.

 

[SimonFa]

Surely no-one is going to think that a "sailing vessel" can only be wind-powered and hence might be misled by a yacht going at a similar speed but under power?

Mike.

Class B leisure users are advised that they have two suitable options for type of vessel, ‘Yacht’ or ‘Pleasure Craft’. To assist in deciding which to use the following definitions should be used:? Use Yacht (36) for a vessel where the primary means of propulsion is by Sail.
? Use ‘Pleasure Craft’ (37) for any other means of propulsion.

Perhaps there should be the option for:

Sailing vessel with auxiliary engine
Power vessel with auxiliary sails

 

[Daydream believer]

I transmit, "pleasure vessel " & on one particular cross channel trip, whilst motor sailing, just past mid way, I was called by the French, from Cap Griz Nez, to describe my vessel & intentions.
Presumably the term "Pleasure vessel" had them wondering what sort of vessel I really had.
I have often wondered if i should have " sailing vessel" but in 2017 on a cruise to Camaret via St Peter Port etc from Bradwell, over several weeks, I managed 14 hours of actual non motor assisted sailing, due to total lack of wind. So pleasure vessel seemed more appropriate.
In 2018 it was the reverse.

 

[Yellow Ballad]

fwiw, I copied the habit of singlehanded racers here (imoca and co) and when sailing alone I modify the name of my boat adding "solo sailor" at the end, actually I had to delete a few letters from the name as there were not enough available characters in the "boat name" field.

I did this a couple of times and although I can see why it's done I stopped as it doesn't and shouldn't really make a difference if I'm solo of not.

 

[Roberto]

I did this a couple of times and although I can see why it's done I stopped as it doesn't and shouldn't really make a difference if I'm solo of not.

colregs-wise of course not, but knowing people on the "other side" might be tempted to give you a bit more attention, maybe a radio call to check what your intentions are (or maybe wake you up?), imho a definite plus.

ps talking about places >2 days away, where no one can reasonably state to be on watch "all times with all available means" while singlehanding

 

[LadyInBed]

The addition I put in the Name field was to add Ketch, so I could be visibly identified amongst a gaggle of Yachs.

 

[Blue Sunray]

This may be of interest and upset the linguistic pedants: