Chris_Robb
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Plenty of Robbs in Aberdeen - so I know the feeling! Great Gran Dad had a granit quarry up there.
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Advice on how to sell
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jimi
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Pity .. I was beginning to assemble crew for a couple of booze cruises for test sails on the pretext of potentially buying!
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ParaHandy
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jim .. ah flung shedloads o' ma siller at ernie .. so far £50 back so somebody's on fer a big one ... hope its you
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Chris_Robb
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I'm to bloody mean to buy one - must be something to do with my ancestory....
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jimi
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Shucks .. thanks .. Ah widnae buy yon contaptshun o' Robb's onyroads, ah'd want ssumfink a bit mair modurn
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Chris_Robb
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could still do that!!!!
Seriously - I'm going to be sorely upset when the deed is finally done.
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Seriously - I'm going to be sorely upset when the deed is finally done.
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david_e
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If there is someone looking for your type of boat then you have a good chance of catching them with a private ad saving on broker fees and having total control of the sale. YW or YM would be suitable, essential is getting on the web, this site has to be one of the best. Owners associations, manufacturers sites etc are cheap forms of advertising.
Be careful to get the price right, because if and when you eventually have to go to a broker it is hard to put the price up to acommodate their fees.
Why not tap your neighbour up for a cheap brokerage deal?
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Be careful to get the price right, because if and when you eventually have to go to a broker it is hard to put the price up to acommodate their fees.
Why not tap your neighbour up for a cheap brokerage deal?
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JeremyF
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I looked at a boat with Williams and Smithells a couple of year ago - I didn't like their arrogant approach to me as a buyer.
I'd have a go at selling it yourself. Get into a marina so its easy to get viewers on board. Give everything a really good clean, and keep it immaculate while on the market. I agree with the comments about being warm and dry with heating and dehumidifier.
Re marketing, I would have a go selling yourelf, and I would use www.myboatdetails.com as the best way of showing off the all aspects of the boat, and to screen the tyrekickers who want to look to see what its like.
Good luck!
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I'd have a go at selling it yourself. Get into a marina so its easy to get viewers on board. Give everything a really good clean, and keep it immaculate while on the market. I agree with the comments about being warm and dry with heating and dehumidifier.
Re marketing, I would have a go selling yourelf, and I would use www.myboatdetails.com as the best way of showing off the all aspects of the boat, and to screen the tyrekickers who want to look to see what its like.
Good luck!
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qsiv
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'My' brokers wont entertain me giving test sails unless the interest is really well qualified, and probably on a second vist rather than the first - they say it is just too much time wasted otherwise.
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Rowana
Two steps lower than the ships' cat
At least if you get fed up with Ernie, you can get your quid back!! Once you've bought your lottery ticket, it's doon the pan!
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PhilipStapleton
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Even with a connoisseur's boat like the Victory, you'll still get the nautical equivalent of tyre kickers. Unless you live very close to the boat, you'll end up wasting a lot of time travelling. I've just sold a Bav 320 via Ancasters - they did a good job and got me a good price : all I had to do was to take one person for a trial sail - and then he bought. Ancaster also handled the tricky bit about the actual transfer of the money - not something I'd like to do as an individual. It's expensive to use a broker, but I believe I got value for money.
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john_morris_uk
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Ref 'Fiona' - I understand the owner was on the phone to the broker moaning that it hadn't sold only a day or so ago. Big chunky boat, but I didn't have time to stop and look at another boat - already looked at two and time was running out.
We are in the middle of looking at boats and it can be fairly depressing. Realistic price and a clean boat will surely get a sale. The depressing bit is that some people seem to look at some of the advertised prices and think their boat will get that with no effort at all. You arrive to look and the boat is dirty and damp... the gear is tatty and it obviously hasn't moved for months... nuff said.
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We are in the middle of looking at boats and it can be fairly depressing. Realistic price and a clean boat will surely get a sale. The depressing bit is that some people seem to look at some of the advertised prices and think their boat will get that with no effort at all. You arrive to look and the boat is dirty and damp... the gear is tatty and it obviously hasn't moved for months... nuff said.
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1114C
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I have never been on board Fiona but was on board a couple of others on the same row - very very depressing they were and this was at the second hand boat show - no effort made at all and smelt damp - sales pitch had of course implied they were in great nick
Ran a mile
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Ran a mile
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Chris_Robb
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David - the hardest part is to work out what the price should be. The big danger is that most owners probably including me, will think their boat is worth must more than the market is prepared to pay. There are not many examples on the market at any one time, and those that are - it is almost impossible to find out what they actually sold for.
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Robin
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It is very difficult to fix a price, but remember it is impossible to increase one whilst very possible to reduce one! Some brokers I feel would rather push owners for a lower price that means they can sell quickly and get their hands on the commission, after all if the price is £5,000 less on a £60,000 boat they make £4,400 instead of £4,800, not much difference to them (only £400 dropped) in exchange or a quick turnover but the poor owner is left wondering if he might have got quite a bit more.
As a side issue why should it cost £8,000 to sell a 40ft boat for £100,000 and only half that to sell one for £50,000 I wonder?
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As a side issue why should it cost £8,000 to sell a 40ft boat for £100,000 and only half that to sell one for £50,000 I wonder?
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tcm
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Re: That old chesnut!
"I am considering selling my boat for £xx and not sure whether to advertise in this mag or that, or a broker. Any ideas, ahem? Also I have some other questions to hopefully keep this nice and high up as the most-recent thread BUT it is most definitely NOT an advert"
Mind you, I suppose I'm helping aren't I? What the heck, perhaps everyone could helpfully put in an insult, start a argument over the principle of advertising, or protest that the post was totally genuine and not at all a sort-of hopeful advert, and perhaps also raise serious objections about my nasty cynical nature, all of which will help.
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"I am considering selling my boat for £xx and not sure whether to advertise in this mag or that, or a broker. Any ideas, ahem? Also I have some other questions to hopefully keep this nice and high up as the most-recent thread BUT it is most definitely NOT an advert"
Mind you, I suppose I'm helping aren't I? What the heck, perhaps everyone could helpfully put in an insult, start a argument over the principle of advertising, or protest that the post was totally genuine and not at all a sort-of hopeful advert, and perhaps also raise serious objections about my nasty cynical nature, all of which will help.
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Chris_Robb
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Re: That old chesnut!
Hi Matt - thanks for keeping it at the top!!!!!!
Of course definitely not an adv..... Actually the post have been very helpful. I have had a broker trying to steam roller his way in by turning up at my initial meeting on the boat with a customer - makes it very difficult to know which side he is on when you know he is also a business partner in a non boaty business! Propect of a serious buyer wheeled in makes it difficult to decide which way to go.
Ideas and thoughts from this forum have helped chrystalise my plans.. so if any one out there is looking for......(censored)
Chris
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Hi Matt - thanks for keeping it at the top!!!!!!
Of course definitely not an adv..... Actually the post have been very helpful. I have had a broker trying to steam roller his way in by turning up at my initial meeting on the boat with a customer - makes it very difficult to know which side he is on when you know he is also a business partner in a non boaty business! Propect of a serious buyer wheeled in makes it difficult to decide which way to go.
Ideas and thoughts from this forum have helped chrystalise my plans.. so if any one out there is looking for......(censored)
Chris
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tcm
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Re: That old chesnut!
the brokery chap is obviously a very good friend, or a very desperate or lackadaisical broker. If he can bring along any more customers (and you haven't signed up to his huge fee) then I would strongly recommend that as the best route.
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the brokery chap is obviously a very good friend, or a very desperate or lackadaisical broker. If he can bring along any more customers (and you haven't signed up to his huge fee) then I would strongly recommend that as the best route.
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Chris_Robb
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Re Fiona:
She came on the market 5 months ago at £75,000 which seemed to me optimistic at the time. Now reduced to £65,000, and apparently still not selling. This was my instinctive price for Corsair, however the broker says its too high. Any idea what kind of condition Fiona is in? - the spec looks quite comprehensive, but she is built by Aberdour whose finish was more basic than the equivalent Trintella version.
Still can't decide whether to market privately or not. Trouble is that the first meeting with the broker to talk over the idea of selling was kind of hijacked by him bringing a friend of his(who is a serious viewer) to view the boat without warning me - ie I had not even started cleaning or decluttering. So bit of a dilema really.
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She came on the market 5 months ago at £75,000 which seemed to me optimistic at the time. Now reduced to £65,000, and apparently still not selling. This was my instinctive price for Corsair, however the broker says its too high. Any idea what kind of condition Fiona is in? - the spec looks quite comprehensive, but she is built by Aberdour whose finish was more basic than the equivalent Trintella version.
Still can't decide whether to market privately or not. Trouble is that the first meeting with the broker to talk over the idea of selling was kind of hijacked by him bringing a friend of his(who is a serious viewer) to view the boat without warning me - ie I had not even started cleaning or decluttering. So bit of a dilema really.
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Gunfleet
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So he is arrogant and not much bothered by a) ethics and b) the need to lift the phone and tell you what he's doing. You're still placing the boat with him?
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