Advice needed for Novice

[Gludy]

OK- I have decided I am going to purchase a boat. I have also decided to study the subject in some detail and gain some practical and theoretical experience prior to the actual purchase .... that includes taking the RYA Day Skipper Course etc.

In trying to delve into this new world, I am trying to gain some understanding of the best type of boat to go for - there, at first appears to be unlimited models. Any boat I buy will be surveyed - but what type of boat do I go for?

I am after a second hand coatal cruising boat of between 32 & 40 feet in length, twin deisel, say with a minimum cruising speed of 16 knots. I would prefer if it was suitable for say four people to spend a week or two on and that it was OK for trips to Ireland, France etc. The budget is from £20,000 to £50,000 - its wide because, from as far as I can tell at present, there seem to be some good older boats that sell in the £20 to £30k range, whilst the more modern versions of the same boats are selling in the £30 to £50k range.

What would you forum members choose, if you were me? I know the question is wide open but, it would be interesting to know if there were some makes/models that are suggested more than others and some were the concencus is to avoid.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Jcorstorphine]

If you do not want to go for the Gin and floating conservatory type I would suggest that you look at the range of Nelson motor yachts, Great sea boats although a bit wet in a seaway. Hulls were the basis for many pilot and service boats. Hull were built to very high standards . Standard lengths were 34 and 38 feet. Suggest you log onto Motor Boat and Yachtings page as there is a reprint of a Nelson 34.

Good hunting

John C.

 

[longjohnsilver]

I agree that the semi displacement hull is one of the best in rougher seas but for your budget you will be hard pressed to find one with big enough engines to cruise at 16 knots. The one aspect of the hull which gives it its good sea keeping reputation is also the main downside for your requirement of sleeping 4 people for a relatively long period of time and that is its low internal volume due to its narrow beam. I have a 32 semi displacement channel Islands 32 which I consider to be an excellent boat but it is cramped for 4 people if you are sleeping on board for more than a night or two. Other semi displacement hulls that will fall into your price range are Aqua Stars. Aqua Bells, Weymouths and Corvettes (which have an unusual shaped hull and a greater amount of internal space).
Some of the older Princesses and Fairlines will fall into your price range and will offer good accomodation but you will inevitably come across problems with engine parts wearing out as well as other bits that will have reached the end of their natural life. You should in my opinion leave a good amount of money to put right the unexpected problems. There is a useful article in the August Motorboats Monthly about a Princess 37 which has just been re-engined.
Don't let me put you off, just be prepared for the unexpected surprises. Have a look at as many different boats as you can before making your decision. You will then almost certainly find one which feels right. You will see boats that are described as immaculate which are just one step away from the scrapheap and others which could be almost as goood as new with a little elbow grease. Most cosmetic problems can usually be fairly easily rectified. It's always an exciting time looking for the right boat, I'm sure that you will enjoy it once you've decided what you are looking for. Have a look at www.ybw-boatsforsale.com, they usually have a good selection.
Good hunting.

 

[hlb]

At the top end of your price range you've got to be looking at a 70's model. Go for shafts, outdrives are probabley a bit iffy at that age.
Dont forget marina fees,diesel, repairs.
Five to ten grand a year is not unrealistic.
Think about droping some of your options and look at motor sailers or rag and stick boats which fit the price bracket better.
Theres also alot of difference between a 32 foot boat and 40 feet. you need to narrow down your field. Also some people can be happy with 4 on a 25 ft boat. Others wont.
Also think about where its going to be based and how close suitable harbours are. France and Ireland are not easy from any location but one or the other is. It depends where your setting off from.
Go for a well known make with some reputation.
I'd go 32ft'ish 50 grand rather than the other way about.

Haydn

 

[Gludy]

Thank you for the sound advice you have all given. As a result, I am beginning to modify my requirements and change my budgets. I have posted a new threas on some of my current questions.
Kind regards,
Paul