RD60
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I have an Axiom XL and would like to add a camera. .
What are the best, low cost, options to achieve this?
What are the best, low cost, options to achieve this?
Adding a Camera
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Hurricane
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What will the camera be used for?
Where will it be located?
In my experience, you have to be a bit careful with IP cameras.
They "stream" so there can be a delay which is a bit off putting but, more importantly, a delay within a docking camera might not be desirable.
My docking cameras are cheap analogue RGB which have been working fine.
They feed into the RGB inputs on my Raymarine G Series displays.
My system is now 13 years old - there may be better (faster) IP cameras out there now but I would check before fitting.
Especially if fitting cheap, non marine, IP cameras.
Where will it be located?
In my experience, you have to be a bit careful with IP cameras.
They "stream" so there can be a delay which is a bit off putting but, more importantly, a delay within a docking camera might not be desirable.
My docking cameras are cheap analogue RGB which have been working fine.
They feed into the RGB inputs on my Raymarine G Series displays.
My system is now 13 years old - there may be better (faster) IP cameras out there now but I would check before fitting.
Especially if fitting cheap, non marine, IP cameras.
RD60
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Thanks for this. Considering aft facing external camera and maybe one in engine space
jakew009
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Most IP cameras nowadays have very little latency (less than 500ms). You should easily be able to get sub second latency onto an Axiom screen.
We can easily get sub 1s latency including sending it half way around the world
I think the Axiom's will work with pretty much any ONVIF compliant camera. Axis are a decent make.
Hurricane
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Yep - I it should be better these days but the OP was asking about low cost cameras.Most IP cameras nowadays have very little latency (less than 500ms). You should easily be able to get sub second latency onto an Axiom screen.
We can easily get sub 1s latency including sending it half way around the world
I think the Axiom's will work with pretty much any ONVIF compliant camera. Axis are a decent make.
And 500ms is a noticeable lag.
I've got an Escam IP camera for our Anchor camera and that has a noticeable lag when streaming onto a fast PC.
About a 1 second delay.
Just be careful with cheap IP cameras.
I think I would use analogue (RGB) for docking cameras though because the lag would be so unnerving that you probably wouldn't use it
Even with no lag, it took me a while to start trusting my docking cameras.
Here are some pics for the OP
First Ancam
A cheap Escam IP camera - see the top left of the photo .
The Rocna anchor stowed.
And this is the view on one of the Raymarine G Series displays
And a video of the anchor being recovered - this was the old Delta anchor
I have two analogue RGB docking cameras that I fitted to the underside of the flybridge overhang.
One for each stern quarter
This is what you see on the Raymarine displays whilst under way.
IIRC, the Ancam (Escam IP cameras) were about £40 each at the time (I bought spares in case it failed - it hasn't - yet!!)
And the analogue RGB docking cameras were about £75 each.
Hope that helps.
Bigplumbs
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You need a smaller boat then you can use the mark 1 eyeball camera as you can see it all
Bigplumbs
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Are eBay wired car reversing cameras ok for such a task
Greg2
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Because the rear view from our wheelhouse is none existent I wanted a continual view behind but didn’t want to use the Axiom display, preferring to keep that for radar and navigation. We had space for a separate monitor so I bought a kit from this outfit for not a lot of gold in boating terms and it does the job. The one we bought will take feeds from three cameras but we on,y have one, primarily because the conduit taking wires down the windscreen mullion is full!
Bigplumbs
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I just received that same outfit with one camera (it will take 2 though) and a remote from ebay for £57. I am about to fit it to the new to us motorhome. I got quite a lot of fixings for the display and they look very secure.
Looking on ebay today seems as though it has hone up to £110 in 2 days
Car Reversing Camera Kit 7" TFT LCD Screen HD Monitor 12V-24V parking Sensor kit | eBay
RD60
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Thanks for the useful and informative replies
Hurricane
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Thats a useful link
I'm always on the look out for monitors that can be used for on board navigation.
Something that you can build DIY.
Not for me but for friends who want to build their own nav system.
The 10" one in your link seems to come close to that requirement.
Add a Raspberry Pi and some free software and you might get a good configurable plotter for very little money.
Bigplumbs
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I just unpacked my reversing camera from Ebay and this is what I got in the box. I will list the items as it is not obvious what they are from the pic
1) 7 Inch Screen
2) Camera with hood, mount and Infrared
3) Screen mount for flush installation
4) Window Sucker Mount
5) Flat surface mount with sticker and screw holes
6) Coil of wire - single from camera to monitor
7) 12V Plug and power wire with red push button switch but no USB Passthrough
8) Separate Power wire if you want to hard wire
9) Bag of 4 small screws
10) Remote control
11) Monitor instructions but no other instructions
12) The screen has an input for a second camera but this kit only came with 1 camera
Not sure what the green wire is in the pic I think this is for the reversing line grid thing
All in all looks a reasonable package for £57 delivered
1) 7 Inch Screen
2) Camera with hood, mount and Infrared
3) Screen mount for flush installation
4) Window Sucker Mount
5) Flat surface mount with sticker and screw holes
6) Coil of wire - single from camera to monitor
7) 12V Plug and power wire with red push button switch but no USB Passthrough
8) Separate Power wire if you want to hard wire
9) Bag of 4 small screws
10) Remote control
11) Monitor instructions but no other instructions
12) The screen has an input for a second camera but this kit only came with 1 camera
Not sure what the green wire is in the pic I think this is for the reversing line grid thing
All in all looks a reasonable package for £57 delivered
Scubadoo
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In my experience I have used several of those type of cameras for many years and found they tend to fail after about 1 to 2 years in a marine environment, however they are cheap and can be regarded as throw away cameras.
Greg2
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We went for one with a stainless cover and being ‘one their most corrosion resistant designs’ - we will see how the advertising blurb stands up to reality! ?
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markc
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Problem with the reversing camera kits is that the screens are rubbish, only good for use in the dark, or lots of shade
Greg2
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I would agree - ours is in the wheelhouse so not too bad.
DavidMcMullan
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I tried to link up a pair of HiLook network cameras to my Axiom Pro, but was unsuccessful in getting the Axiom to recognise them. I had set them to ONVIF and fiddled with other settings but to no avail. If anyone has any success with Axiom link-up, can you advise?
bluetooth
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See my post on page 3 this thread..
Docking & engine room cameras
The £14 camera is still working fine though i appreciate its not available now. Biggest issue was installing the wires!
There was another thread on the subject:
Reversing Camera - Targa 40
Docking & engine room cameras
The £14 camera is still working fine though i appreciate its not available now. Biggest issue was installing the wires!
There was another thread on the subject:
Reversing Camera - Targa 40
Hurricane
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Another thing to consider with Docking Cameras.
Do you want the image mirrored or normal?
In other words do you want to consider it like the rear view mirror in a car?
I have an additional problem.
I have two monitors on each helm station.
So, I have to also consider if I want the port screen viewing the port camera or the port screen viewing the starboard camera.
Ditto for the starboard screen.
The logic says that if you are mirroring the displays, the position of the displays should also be mirrored.
All this is far too complicated for my little brain to take in at the precise moment that I need the information.
So, I keep the starboard screen displaying the starboard camera - not mirrored.
Likewise for the port screen.
Just thought I would add this to the thread!!!
Do you want the image mirrored or normal?
In other words do you want to consider it like the rear view mirror in a car?
I have an additional problem.
I have two monitors on each helm station.
So, I have to also consider if I want the port screen viewing the port camera or the port screen viewing the starboard camera.
Ditto for the starboard screen.
The logic says that if you are mirroring the displays, the position of the displays should also be mirrored.
All this is far too complicated for my little brain to take in at the precise moment that I need the information.
So, I keep the starboard screen displaying the starboard camera - not mirrored.
Likewise for the port screen.
Just thought I would add this to the thread!!!
Greg2
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Reassuring to know that it isn’t just my little brain that struggle with such matters! ?
