Actuall price range on a Princess V40i

Thanks to you all for intresting reading about the alternatives:)

I can imagen that it ride a bit high without trim.. but many others boats do just that to.. i have had Princess 286,P32 riviera,Targa 38 and 39 and 37.

The 286 was not high but all of the others is.. the olesinski hulls runs very good from 27 knots and up.. the only problem was that all boats exept the 286 had KAD 42s ho is rhather sluggish for those boats.. under 25 knots i always trimed drives almost in and used a little trim on the tabs to get the bow i quite good position.. How is the Sunseeker compared with those? regarding riding high?
I must admitt that the hull of the 38 and 39 (they are the same) was impressing me.. very nice seaboats.. but the targas didnt like positive trim on the sterndrives at all.. but thats because of the little engines i think..
I did pick up a Windy 32 scirocco from UK once.. that one had KAD 300s:D
The boat was very fun to drive and you can trim it all the way so just a little of the stern is in water.. 44 knots flat out:D
 
You are right in saying the old 38/39 Targa is the best hull. It is in fact and old Fairline boss Sam Newington once said it is the best hull Fairline ever made.
I am surprised saying the above boats ride high as I driven them all, and all of them ride quiet straigh IMO. Bernard Olesinski hulls ride good for most of them, the problem is the latest ninties onwards models with shafts, and tunnel props and medium Vee 18 degrees aft. These for most of them have to much weight aft, and the tunnels do not help. I still think that these boats had to be produced without them. There is some exceptions in this range like the old 56/59 Squadron, 58 Squadron not perfect but just right, 52 Squadron, Azimut AZ43, Azimut 54/58 same as 58 Sqd, Azimut 40 these I remember out of my head. On the other hand the old Phantom series ride so high accept for the 50, and the Princess 50 phew is a nightmare.
The highest riding of your list would be the 32 Riviera but thats a super dry boat, and is still low compared to a SS. The 37 Targa drives straight as a rocket, but feels a bit light in head and beamy seas. The old 38/39 Targa goes straight too, is just the right weight and can go trough anything you throw at it. Following, head, beamy etc etc That hull is the same used for the 40 Targa so if you want more power you can look at one of these with the D6s.
Last year I drove downwind following a 40 Targa on Sundays which is pretty busy with swell the boats make, and was also a NW swell of about 1.5 metres was impressed again with that hull. This example only one in Malta has D6 350s and it does 40 knots. Pity about the cockpit layout which I think for a 40 footer looks small, with that half sunpad and small C-shaped settee. Small for a 40 footer!
Yes agree those hulls like negative like -2 drives and tabls all in, and all down in the lower speed range under 23 knots.
 
I am lifting this old thread again.
A few days ago, I went looking at a V40I with 63P on shafts. The boat was a 1998 model, fairly well mantained by the current owner who was quite a handy man.

The 63P's are known to be good engines, but at 14 years of age, one must accept that things can happen.
They were smoking quite a bit on idle and left a very noticable black cloud when getting on the plane.

One thing I was not comfertable with was the lack of access to the outside of the engines. If a starter motor goes on the Port engine, I am not sure it's even possible to replace it. Impeller, anodes etc. is also very tight and can be reached with one arm only.
Same goes for the SB engine. Diesel pump, coolers etc.. If they need to go out, how on earth could it be done?
The tanks are located outside of the engines with a 20 cm gap between them. Also not possible to reach over the engines due to the height.

And if something serious happened so that the engines would need to be lifted out, I am in doubt if that even would be possible.

Does anyone have experience with this boat and engine configuration chime in?
Would Princess design a boat that you could not remove the engines on?
I remember a home page of a very enthusiastic V40I owner with lots of info and pics, but the web page seems to be gone unless someone knows better??

I know there are tons of V40 and V42's on sterndrives, but old KAD engines on sterndrives are not temting for me. That was why i was looking at this V40I, but i was very surprised by the lack of access to everything. Newer MKII's with D6's are out of my budget.

Any information is greatly appreciated :)
 
Why not get a flybridge boat which is more suitable for the norwegian climate ? Then you'd have a nice helipad as well ;)

Hyggelig om vi kunne treffes på fjorden en gang. Vi er som regel utpå i helgene :)
 
Fusebox said:
Why not get a flybridge boat which is more suitable for the norwegian climate ? Then you'd have a nice helipad as well ;)

Hyggelig om vi kunne treffes på fjorden en gang. Vi er som regel utpå i helgene :)
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Norwegain startet denne rundt to år siden ... husker ikke hva som ble gjort, men han har ikke vært aktiv her borte siden ... hvis du vil vite hva som skjedde, så sjekk på baatplassen.no

To the English speaking people in here .. :) .. that was just a short guidance that this thread was started in 2010 and where to contact "Norwegian" ...
 
I do not think he bought a V40i, so the the question still goes out to those who have owned or worked on a V40i :)

Hehe. Yes. Also looking at FB boats with 63p engines, but the ones I desire are currently a little over my budget (P40/ Ph40)
 
jimmy_the_builder said:
The V40 on shafts was a pretty rare beast, so I'm afraid the lack of response to your question probably speaks for itself, sorry. Good luck with your search though.

Cheers
Jimmy
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Are they rare because Princess stopped making them or was there a significant price premium for the shaft version?

Having only recently driven a large sport cruiser on shafts, I must say I would love to have now I have driven one.
 
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wakeup said:
Are they rare because Princess stopped making them or war there a significant price premium for the shaft version.

Having only recently driven a large sport cruiser on shafts, I must say I would love to have now I have driven one.
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This piece (weirdly, on the Fairline owners club website) explains a bit:

http://www.fairlineownersclub.com/v40.htm

There are a couple of old threads as well, although I daresay sap_2000 must have come across them already:

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10523
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32857

Cheers
Jimmy
 
jimmy_the_builder said:
This piece (weirdly, on the Fairline owners club website) explains a bit:

http://www.fairlineownersclub.com/v40.htm

There are a couple of old threads as well, although I daresay sap_2000 must have come across them already:

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10523
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32857

Cheers
Jimmy
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Hmm, £40k premium, rising to £80k, now wonder they didn't sell many.

I don't quite understand why there would be, would need to be, such a price premium. I can't imagine a v drive box plus shafts and rudder are really that much more expensive than a sterndrive.
 
wakeup said:
Hmm, £40k premium, rising to £80k, now wonder they didn't sell many.

I don't quite understand why there would be, would need to be, such a price premium. I can't imagine a v drive box plus shafts and rudder are really that much more expensive than a sterndrive.
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It's the installation that bumps up the cost, fitting stern tubes, p brackets etc takes many hours, where a sterdrive package is all done from a jig to cut straight through the stern, the whole package on a sterndrives is pretty much compact in design for all services, where a shaft has to have , exhaust hoses and hull fitting, sea water inlets and strainers, these all cost more., also the stock price of a 63p or 73pedc was thousands more than a kad44/300.
 
volvopaul said:
It's the installation that bumps up the cost, fitting stern tubes, p brackets etc takes many hours, where a sterdrive package is all done from a jig to cut straight through the stern, the whole package on a sterndrives is pretty much compact in design for all services, where a shaft has to have , exhaust hoses and hull fitting, sea water inlets and strainers, these all cost more., also the stock price of a 63p or 73pedc was thousands more than a kad44/300.
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OK, I can understand the extra effort for a one off, but we are talking about a boat builder that fits 100s of shaft drive boat per annum. I would imagine they would have all the jigs and tools to do this quickly otherwise they'd be out of business.
 
wakeup said:
OK, I can understand the extra effort for a one off, but we are talking about a boat builder that fits 100s of shaft drive boat per annum. I would imagine they would have all the jigs and tools to do this quickly otherwise they'd be out of business.
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I'll admit they didn't build many shaft drive versions but yes princess would have designed the tooling to set up proper production, I know of 4 shaft drive v40s.
 
Norwegian said:
Hi Volvo Paul. I saw that.. This one has Volvos in it. But nice boat..

I saw a 406 i Greece with new Cats i 2004 and 9Kw genny up for sale.. extended plattform to. british flag.

I think i wil use the winter to find me a good boat.. I must be ready before next summer..

One question.. I have seen several nice boats up for sale in scotland on the west coast.. Is it possible to take a boat by water from west to east coast easy? any limits regarding beam and height on waterways?
Its a quite long journey all the way around...
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The Caledonian Canal runs from Fort William in the West to Loch Ness, then Inverness in the East. I don't thinbk there are any airdraft issues, and beam would be OK for all except the largets of leisure craft. I have not done this trip but I believe 2 or 3 days woulod cover it. There are a few locks which will slow you down.
 
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