Achilles 24, How things have changed!

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Looking through some old books the other day, I came on the brochures and invoices for our first cruising yacht. It was a Butler Mouldings Achilles 24, No. 334, we bought it as a 'kit' in 1975, ordered and paid for in a rush to beat the imminent introduction of vat; the hull and deck with fin keel, mast, boom and rudder cost £1,300, standing rigging was £80, running rigging £30 and a set of windows £30. The hull was a trendy 'golden sand' colour. A Bramber 4 wheel braked trailer was an extra £345 and I spent £173 on a new Avon Redcrest, which we are still using today. 4 winches were from Barlow
The boat had been paid for from money saved by doing all our own labour on a house we were building so it sat on our building plot while we finished the house far enough to move in,(I was working as an architect in local gov. in those days so I had plenty of spare time and energy). I went to the timber yard and purchased some sheets of teak veneered marine ply for bulkheads and lockers and a 9"x6" baulk of teak which they ran down to planks of various thicknesses from 8 - 32 mm. for me, to make grabrails, lippings etc. I still have some of the teak that was not used. The cushion foam and covering material were bought from a local upholsterer but I bought the wife a lovely new sewing machine for her birthday. Sails were purchased from Atlantic sails in Miltown Malbay and included a solid red spinnaker, we soon learned what a broach was.
When it was finished we had 4''6" headroom, a galley unit which slid along the berth to stow under the cockpit when not in use, comprising a bit of worktop and 2 burner camping stove directly connected to a camping gaz bottle under it, the sink was a round stainless steel bowl in a hole in a worktop which you emptied over the side. The loo arrangement in the forepeak was similarly sophisticated, a matching yellow plastic bucket (with lid) which sat in a hole in the ply under the forecabin bunk. Chris Butler, the designer and builder did not approve of unnecessary holes in the hull. Water was carried in two 12 litre plastic containers stowed under the cockpit which were carried ashore to replenish, we used a Whale flipper pump with length of tube to extract it; amazing how long we could make it last. We had a Yamaha 8hp outboard stowed under the cockpit which could be dropped through a cockpit well with a 2.5 gallon petrol tank which stayed on the cockpit floor. We kept this and the trailer and used both for the 26' Trapper 300 that eventually replaced her. We had just about enough motoring range to just about get us across the North Channel but even on a light day we had to sail for a few hours to feel comfortable about it. For a chart table I had a bit of plywood that resided under a bunk cushion, this also doubled as a saloon table when moved to the top of the cushion. We had a compass, log and echosounder plus the dreaded RDF compass and earphones for navigation but no VHF, there was no one to call anyway. Our anchor was a genuine 15 lb.CQR on 1/4" chain plus rope.
When we went cruising, my daughter who was nearly two, sat in a Britax car seat facing aft strapped to the cabin bulkhead at the front of the cockpit and slept in a carry cot in the quarter berth, her four year old brother was in a bulky lifejacket and tether. Popular destinations were Girvan and Campbeltown which had public swimming pools, there was a public shower in the toilet block in Tarbert but otherwise some hotels would let you have a bath or a shower, the ones in the Crinan hotel were particularly claustrophobic, no light or ventilation and the single light would suddenly go out, leaving you wet and naked in pitch darkness. Getting a good wash was high on the priority list when choosing a destination and marinas did not exist in Ireland or Scotland. When you went in to Portpatrick, Campbeltown or Tarbert you tied up beside a fishing boat and used a spare sheet to hoist the kids up on to the quay at low tide. We tried to berth in a harbour at least every second night when we could and the Crinan Canal was really popular with the kids though in those days there were no showers. We encountered very few other boats and you got to know most of them, 5 visiting boats was a crowd in Tarbert then, and if you saw a great big 30 footer you stopped to admire it. We used the boat all year round as in the winter we trailed it to Lough Neagh and did the 20 race winter Antrim Sunday race series, returning to the sea in the spring.
Happy days, she was a safe boat ideal to start with and taught us all such a lot about sailing, my son is still racing regularly down in the Clyde though my daughter is now living in England and no longer has the chance. Our initial shortlist included the Ruffian 23, the Listang and the Robber but I still believe we could not have chosen a better boat at the time.
To put the cost of stuff in perspective when I sold the Achilles (at a profit) for a bit over£3k; that was about 2 years take home pay for me so you could buy a good deal bigger boat for that these days.
 

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For some of us, things haven't changed at all!

We paid about the same as you did for Blue, our A24 in 2003. Great little boat, v little headroom, low tech heads, inboard/outboard, etc.

There is a very active group of enthusiasts on Flickr, which is a photosharing site, but we use it to exchange information and ideas. We have all met up a couple of times, and Chris Butler joined us. Last year we also invited William Garnier, who wrote Big Bloke Small Boat, his account of taking his A24 across the Atlantic, round the Caribbean, and back, single handed.

The boats hold their value, there are several for sale between £2k and £6k.

We have lost count of the number of times we have been accosted in marinas etc by people who have moved on from owning an Achilles, but say things like "best boat we ever owned".

There is also an Achilles24 website, with a list of sail numbers. Your boat is not shown on the list, so we can't say where it is now, I'm afraid.
 

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still got the itemised receipt for dad's halcyon clipper 27 - new in 1973 - £3,333.

we kicked about the clyde a lot until early 80's, arran, millport, kyles etc. dad would sail a lot when we were sleeping, and we'd wake up in arran. then he'd sleep on the beach while we played :) still love ardentinny.

and then when we were looking at a hustler 35, he pulled an original tyler's promo leaflet off a shelf in his study with the hustler details/info on it!
 

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Alot to be said for the more basic start to yachting. I started sailing with a £1200 Italian plywood sloop, 25' and varnished when I was 17. But then me and a mate sailed surving on hienz mulatawany soup! Happy days.
 

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For some of us, things haven't changed at all!

There is also an Achilles 24 website, with a list of sail numbers. Your boat is not shown on the list, so we can't say where it is now, I'm afraid.

Among the papers I have as well as the brochure, price list and specifications, is the Achilles 24 list of sail numbers from 11 - 345 published Jan. 1975 by Butler Mouldings (Oliver Lee retained the numbers 1-10) which shows the names and addresses of all the original owners. A very high proportion of these boats went abroad, many to Switzerland, Denmark and Holland but some much further.
If you do not have this, and if it is of interest, if you send me a pm with an email address I can scan the pages and forward them.
 

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Last year my son sold his half-share in a Co32 and bought an Achilles 24 (a triple keeler called Water Music). I did the delivery trip from Aberaeron to the upper reaches of the Milford Haven, stopping at Fishguard. Two smashing days - I was very impressed how well she sailed and sometimes yearn for a smaller simpler boat.
 

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Thanks for sharing this. Nothing to say about it, just appreciate it.

(YBW: Can we have a 'like' button A La Facebook?)

+1 - Really interesting - can IPC include something like this in one of their titles? It makes you realise just how much things have changed not necessarily always for the better
 

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Changes

Apart from the invention of the folding spray hood to shelter the cockpit and companionway from rain and spray by far the biggest change has been in navigation. In reasonable visibility you could take bearings on visible features with your hand bearing compass but it was vital to use dead reckoning, plotting your speed and direction, corrected for tide, meticulously on the paper chart. The tidal atlas was always in use and if you knew your plans in advance it was useful to take the time to note the anticipated streams on the chart. An accurate log and properly swung compass was essential and you took every opportunity to keep the log calibrated, we would divert to use the coast mile posts as we passed the N. E. side of Arran and similar places. Navigation was always an awful lot easier at night with long range visibility on bright lighthouses up to 30 miles away and we often opted for night passages in open water like the Irish Sea. I was always more confident of our position at night and there was not as much light clutter as you approached the shore.
When visibility was low the dead reckoning was crucial, it was supplemented by a hand held compass with a pair of earphones which you took on deck to hunt for a morse signal transmitted by lighthouses and some shore stations, you turned it round to hunt for a null which was anything up to 25 degrees wide, worse when the boat was pitching. Most lighthouses had fog horns which seemed to echo around eerily through the murk without ever seeming to change bearing. As you approached shore the echosounder was used to follow a safe contour. Often you were happy to establish a position inside a mile wide triangle. I plotted using a parallel rule but kneeling on the floor without a fixed chart table it was necessary to do everything twice unless the sea was calm. After a passage the chart was covered in pencil lines and notes, these days they remain almost pristine with just a dot and the time of some gps positions.
After about ten years we had a Decca and suddenly navigation seemed so easy and everyone felt safer, however our first Decca seem to spend more time defunct or being repaired than working, so the basic navigation was still needed as we could never quite trust it. When you made a landfall and the cliffs of Sanda or Corsewall point appeared out of the murk you often had to close them to establish exactly where you were and which way to turn.
Passages were slower but navigation took up so much time that it did not seem that way.
 

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Cars have got much cheaper, mid 70s, young professional income around £2-2.5k, family car £1k (which only lasted 5 years), 24' boat £3k (which lasted 50 yrs.) followed by massive inflation through to the mid 80s
Today, Equivalent job £40k?, family car £18k?, Boat £50k? will the boat last 50 years though?
 
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