Absolutely the most gorgeous boat in the world

[Portofino]

Even without watching the video, that looks like the worst helm position I have ever seen. Too far from the windows, no side door, seat upright and poorly padded, controls at a stretch, huge blind spot

FBs in the med are up top steered by 99 % from observation .
Side door is with the galley .
Its the hull , engines ( MTU or MAN s ) on shafts and dateless lines and reliability aka low hidden bills going forwards .

Timeless and thus think residuals when it’s time to offload .
The Abs will be yesterdays modal by the time you dock it in its berth as the next thing will be out.
IPS maintenance will stunt demand once the warranty disappears.
They will be virtually giving them away to peeps , newby s who cannot be bothered learning how to park a typical powerful twin shaft .Plenty about though !

 

[Bouba]

FBs in the med are up top steered by 99 % from observation .
Side door is with the galley .
Its the hull , engines ( MTU or MAN s ) on shafts and dateless lines and reliability aka low hidden bills going forwards .

Timeless and thus think residuals when it’s time to offload .
The Abs will be yesterdays modal by the time you dock it in its berth as the next thing will be out.
IPS maintenance will stunt demand once the warranty disappears.
They will be virtually giving them away to peeps , newby s who cannot be bothered learning how to park a typical powerful twin shaft .Plenty about though !

I do agree on one thing, Sanlorenzos are beautiful looking boats, no matter how old or new

 

[longjohnsilver]

If you have to ask you can’t afford it.....☹ I expect in the low seven figures (regardless of currency ?)

Lira?

 

[ari]

Taste is a funny thing mate. Champagne and beer salary springs to mind. 99.9% of the members here would trade up in a straight swap if they could afford to keep it. Tells you everything you need to know

I'm not too sure what point you're trying to make here. I'd trade up in a straight swap if I could afford to keep it and someone offered, but that doesn't change its appearance any, or my perception of it.

Or are you suggesting that those of us who can't afford it are just lowly plebs not worthy of an opinion?

What everything, exactly, is it telling you?

 

[TonyR123]

SL looks ok for a boat that old but not for me. Poor flybridge. I wouldn’t want the ABS either. Under 65ft (and not over) then has to be the Pearl 62.

 

[BruceK]

I'm not too sure what point you're trying to make here. I'd trade up in a straight swap if I could afford to keep it and someone offered, but that doesn't change its appearance any, or my perception of it.

Or are you suggesting that those of us who can't afford it are just lowly plebs not worthy of an opinion?

What everything, exactly, is it telling you?

Caught one Bouba! How are you faring?

Ari, can you not see the tongue in cheek emoji and that I am taking the mickey? You seem to miss these with me. The point I was making is as ugly as it is it is still better than what most of us have or can afford. It's easy to criticise when you dont have a stake and that makes the opinion quite arbitrary.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Grand Trawler 62 - Motorboats For Sale | BENETEAU
Internal staircase, perfect boat for you, Mike

True. One of the very few new boats on the market designed with internal stairs and well done Beneteau for doing that

 

[Bouba]

How are you faring?

I’m doing well, Bruce. On Wednesday I have an appointment for my first coat of Pfizer

 

[BruceK]

You are doing well! By UK standards that'll place you well below the 50's. French living must be agreeable. ?

 

[petem]

I like it a lot.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Even without watching the video, that looks like the worst helm position I have ever seen. Too far from the windows, no side door, seat upright and poorly padded, controls at a stretch, huge blind spot

Its the traditional Italian design philosophy. If you can afford to buy a new San Lorenzo, you can afford to hire a skipper to drive it for you and a proper skipper will want to drive it standing up because thats the best way to drive a boat. My Ferretti 630 is the same. If you do drive it from the lower helm standing up, then the position of the seat, wheel, controls and display panels makes a whole lot more sense

Actually I bought my Ferretti from San Lorenzo, who had taken it in p/x against a new boat, and I visited their yard in Ameglia a few times during the buying process. First I have to say that it was the best buying experience that I've ever had and I've had a few. But my point was that I discussed driving positions with a couple of their guys and the above is what they told me

Apart from the buying experience, I was shown around the factory and I did view a couple of SLs whilst I was there including a used SL62. My overriding impression was that they really do build their boats like brick s**thouses with a level of engineering you dont see on other production boats. Actually I was rather torn between the SL62 and the F630 but in the end SWMBO insisted she much preferred the aft galley layout of the F630 so thats what we went for but I would have no hesitation in buying a used San Lorenzo

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Perhaps the tank size reflects the economy of the pods?‍ But it will get increasingly hard to buy a boat if you don’t like pods.

I've yet to see a boat test of an IPS powered flybridge boat that shows better fuel consumption than an equivalent shaftdrive boat. Boat builders fit IPS for a number of reasons but fuel consumption isnt one of those reasons. The first reason is that the engine bay can be roughly 1m shorter which releases more space for accommodation forward and we all know that it is accommodation that sells boats at boat shows. The relatively small fuel capacity is probably also a result of the designers maximising accommodation. Second, IPS is cheaper for the builder to fit than a traditional shaftdrive installation and thirdly IPS joystick control is a big selling point for less experienced boaters moving up the range to bigger boats

I'm not criticising Absolute. They seem to be very successful at what they do and certainly they've hit the spot with their Navetta range which has sold very well but IMHO they're not really the kind of boat you'd choose for long distance cruising. Put it like this. I'd rather be out in a lumpy sea in a Swift Trawler than an Absolute Navetta

 

[TonyR123]

from what I can tell the fuel tanks more match the size of engine and most new boats of say 65ft give about 250 miles range. Sunseeker Manhatten 68 and Fairline Squadron 68 can both have Man v8 1200 and they burn 480 litres per hour (lph) at the max (for 2 engines). With the sunseeker tanks holding 4000 litres then this gives you 8.33 hours at max speed. Pearl 62 has Volvo IPS 1200 with max fuel rate of 328lph and a tank size of 2750 litres. This gives you 8.38 hours at max speed. Fairline has slightly bigger tanks so you would get 9.75 hours at max speed. The max speeds are all fairly similar - within a couple of knots of each other.

got the "lph" figures from engine manufacturer sites but dont have the links, so hopefully I noted them down correctly. pretty sure that is correct as that is what I have on my "next boat comparison" spread sheet .

admittedly I haven't taken account of any cruising speeds, but was trying to get a way to compare them all quickly.

 

[TonyR123]

had a quick look on San Lorenzo website and the SL78 (which I really do like, but out of my budget) has tanks of 5300 litres but bigger engines so I expect the range would be similar again?

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

I think its stern solution is very cool, and IMO it will work a lot better in real World to that for example of the upcoming Targa 58 for example.
Blue Game BGX, San Lorenzo SX, and Arcadia apart this is a good stern solution.
This new Absolute shortens the gap between the Navetta and the Fly range by not little. In some way excluding its very full bow it feels sporty to when looking at her from the stern.

I am not sure I like her, hate her. My problem with most modern designs is the too much glass. I am also personally not a big fan of the Alien bow look. But hey to each his own.

 

[Rum_Pirate]

Taste is a funny thing mate. Champagne and beer salary springs to mind. 99.9% of the members here would trade up in a straight swap if they could afford to keep it. Tells you everything you need to know

I would do that.

However would immediately sell it and buy something else that is much closer to my ideal, leaving a bit over for 'extras'.

 

[BruceK]

Ah, a fellow pirate. We're also off a tiny island. Successfully holding the English at bay ?

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

from what I can tell the fuel tanks more match the size of engine and most new boats of say 65ft give about 250 miles range. Sunseeker Manhatten 68 and Fairline Squadron 68 can both have Man v8 1200 and they burn 480 litres per hour (lph) at the max (for 2 engines). With the sunseeker tanks holding 4000 litres then this gives you 8.33 hours at max speed. Pearl 62 has Volvo IPS 1200 with max fuel rate of 328lph and a tank size of 2750 litres. This gives you 8.38 hours at max speed. Fairline has slightly bigger tanks so you would get 9.75 hours at max speed. The max speeds are all fairly similar - within a couple of knots of each other.

Good analysis but I'm not sure I agree with it because different boats of similar size and weight should consume roughly the same amount of fuel at the same speed whatever the engine power installed. What mostly determines how much fuel a boat uses at a certain speed relative to another boat is its weight, assuming the hull designs are similar. Without knowing the weight of the new Absolute Fly 60 it is impossible to make comparisons with other boats. In fact Absolute dont seem to publish weights of any of their boats on their website which is odd. Maybe they dont want punters to know how light they build their boats

 

[Bouba]

Good analysis but I'm not sure I agree with it because different boats of similar size and weight should consume roughly the same amount of fuel at the same speed whatever the engine power installed. What mostly determines how much fuel a boat uses at a certain speed relative to another boat is its weight, assuming the hull designs are similar. Without knowing the weight of the new Absolute Fly 60 it is impossible to make comparisons with other boats. In fact Absolute dont seem to publish weights of any of their boats on their website which is odd. Maybe they dont want punters to know how light they build their boats

The Boat Show Channel always gives weight and fuel consumption, brands like Absolute are usually at the cutting edge of vacuum infusion and exotic materials so hi end boats are about 20% lighter. Of course IPS engines are smaller than their designation, so must add to the lightness and fuel efficiency.

 

[TonyR123]

I had ignored weight so not the most accurate of comparisons I admit. It was more that the absolute fuel tank is almost the same as the pearl 62, whose range is stated at 250 miles at cruising speed (whatever that is) and I am sure most new boats these days have a fuel tank size for a range of 250nm. Although just read a review on Absolute 62 fly that has 2600 litre tanks and range is anything from 269nm to 309nm so I guess the Absolute 60 will do this at least?