Absolute 47 at boats.co.uk Poole

MapisM said:
Everything is relative, I reckon.
I can see why you could consider the galley not "useful" enough, but for the type of boat, actually I don't think it's too shabby.
And - again, considering the boat type - having two to choose from is a nice feature...
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it has no worksurface at all - that's useless for me. My 37 sportboat was twice the size in the galley dept. Only matters if you like to cook on board, but we do so that's why I said it would rule it out for me.
My current 40 fter needed 4.2m of corian to replace the worktop, and I wasted only about 150mm.
 
jrudge said:
...On which topic if they sill have it they were selling their ex charter t47 for £179k so I could be bought for a bit less. Used well but looked after well also.
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Yes I saw that. Looks a bit tired.

Also I do think 47 is bigger than we need. TBH if I'm going to do this at all I need to get more familiar with the leading contenders.
 
Seems far too expensive for an Italian boat in the uk.
Bit marginal on power as well?

To put into perspective, I bought from a px’d 2007 cranchi med 43 on ips 600’s 2 years ago, for almost half what they’ve listed the Abs for.
I’d of thought the Abs should be about 170k

I’ve also had a Gobbi 425sc (made by the same people who became Absolute) and the build quality was pretty rough. The Cranchi was far far better.
 
jrudge said:
Bear in mind a targa 47 of similar vintage is prob £50 k more.

On which topic if they sill have it they were selling their ex charter t47 for £179k so I could be bought for a bit less. Used well but looked after well also.
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I have been to look at this - it would be fair to say that the price reflects it's condition, needs a lot of work. But having said that, it could be bought, have the work done and give it a refresh, and still have change compared to the Absolute 47.
 
Interesting, thanks for that info. I'm not really up for a refit.... in fact I'd prefer to buy new but that's a non-starter here. So I guess what I'm saying is that a boat in A1 condition at price X is a better bet for me than one needing work at 0.8X. Or whatever.
 
There are a couple of low hours Portofino 47’s at similar money which I would have thought would be a better buy?
 
We have one we bought from boats.co.uk. Took our old Absolute 41 in px at a fair price. We had it surveyed & it did have a couple of IPS issues due to poor maintenance by a VP main dealer. BCU got it all fixed by a better vp dealer & all is good, they also did lots of little bits such as trim foc.
The galley is the same as the 41 & never gave us any issues, we use the saloon table for extra worktop but unless you cook & wash up at the same time there is worktop space (or get a dishwasher fitted we have). Most of the time we use the griddle upstairs TBH.
Absolute build quality is superb & the boat handles beautifully as declared by our surveyor.
 
I, too looked this boat and wasn't that impressed with the presentation if I'm honest. Main issue with the boat for me was the size of the garage, it was tiny and also long term resale price point so put us off altogether.
 
All boats are a compromise, Abs 47 has loads of room downstairs but a small but adequate IMO garage. We just keep a 230 tender with outboard in it, plus a few other bits like tool kit, boat hooks, & a couple of Diesel cans on occasion, all fits.
I have not seen the boat in question but BCU did have it on brokerage, now it is a stock boat they will sort trim etc. Did for me.
 
rubberduck said:
All boats are a compromise, Abs 47 has loads of room downstairs but a small but adequate IMO garage. We just keep a 230 tender with outboard in it, plus a few other bits like tool kit, boat hooks, & a couple of Diesel cans on occasion, all fits.
I have not seen the boat in question but BCU did have it on brokerage, now it is a stock boat they will sort trim etc. Did for me.
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Thanks, very good to hear from an owner and BCU seem very well regarded. TBH this is a discovery task at the moment. Not ready to do a deal but very interesting indeed :)

The room down below seems excellent esp the guest cabin. Has to come from somewhere, so I guess the galley and tender garage are the compromises?.

The question of the tender garage is something I'd not thought of. Today, to deploy my tender I have to get it out of the locker and blow it up, easy enough with an electric pump but still a faff. Or, tow it around. OK in transit but a faff in the marina. Alternative would be davits which screw up access to teh bathing platform (aka marina boarding platform). Either way we have to faff about fitting and removing teh o/b each time. So a tender garage that can take an inboard rib (eg Williams) might be a thing we like. I'll be over 50' at this rate.
 
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Ah the great tender debate .
On a 40 something ftr

At this size 3 versions each with pros and cons .

Tender garage
Limits on what fits .
Sometimes cramps ER space maintenance wise ,if you built like a racing snake a none issue .
Or hear the sighs and tut tuting of the maintenance guys who can’t be bothered emptying it out to check something ! But the work will miraculously appear on your invoice.
Encroaches on accommodation- so no separate rear cabin like a Pershing 43 HT .
This means all the pax breath the same air , hear the same noises as they are crammed fwd into the same space , with a “ guest “ cabin under the cockpit suitable for Ronnie Corbett et al .

Sort of phaff opening it , displacing the crap the tender is buried under , setting up the teak bathing platform protection ( if any ? ) .
Politely ask the occupants of the sunpad to shift 1 st

Reversing the pantomime when you want to stow it .
Adding another scene for onlookers by going through the inflate / deflate rituals if applicable.

Hi lo
Sunseeker portofino range 46,47,48

Something expensively to go wrong in an aged boat and extra maintenance.
Any size will fit within reason , the bigger the greater natural obstacle course you make for yourself and bigger target for your crossed lines to attack in a winter blow .
Covers easily seems to convert into a water feature breeding nice green slime .
The out board prop is constantly trying to attack the same piece of teak .
There’s only gonna be one winer in that argument.
If it can’t have a go at the teak it will get somebody’s leg instead .
Then don,t forget where the Passerelle fits in with the oversized tender perched on the back , but you can rekindle your gaming skills operating it sos it’s misses the tender .

Passerelle

Some boats have a centred pass mounted high up and it doubles up s a tender crane .
No obstacle course at the back as the walk on / off is above the tender .
Cheap as chips and reliable with no sword of damocles maintenance issues lurking to bite .

If you choose a sensible tender size the bathing platform ladder and cockpit access is NOT compromised either .

Being mid mounted and open , ie not in a cassette the Passerelle is pretty much maintenance free .You don,t have to worry about the flap paint peeling off the aluminium, the annoying flap door that never closes properly letting the weather into those delicate micro switches or resetting any trip micro switches if it’s had a knock or even more ER encroachment of valuable ER space at this size .

So it’s all a compromise as is most boaty things .
Take your pick .
 
rubberduck said:
No, not designed for a Williams space or weight wise.
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Is a 230 the largest it will take? Would be good to be able to fit a low profile rib like a Mercury Dynamic 270 that you could bolt a larger outboard onto for some fun.

Anyhow, I really like that 47 from the pics. Having the cockpit table forward is a bit odd but I could probably live with it. Small galley wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
 
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