A small Scottish incident with an anchor - what would you have done?

Seven Spades said:
I wouldn't call it remarkable, it is simply terrible. If I had bought a private island and paid for it then I wouldn't expect any Tom Dick or Harry to go wondering over my land, it is like the land has been nationalised without out compensating the owners of that land for their loss. It is nothing to be proud of unless you are a card carrying Communist.
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Tough. That's how it is here.
 
JumbleDuck said:
Tough. That's how it is here.
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And a very good thing it is too. You can anchor up where you like, row ashore and walk over the land to the nearest pub without fear of someone setting the dogs on you for tresspass. I think it should apply to the whole of the UK although norn iron still has historic (and not so historic) reasons that might prevent it!
 
Seven Spades said:
I wouldn't call it remarkable, it is simply terrible. If I had bought a private island and paid for it then I wouldn't expect any Tom Dick or Harry to go wondering over my land, it is like the land has been nationalised without out compensating the owners of that land for their loss. It is nothing to be proud of unless you are a card carrying Communist.
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Well it is a very popular change in Scotland, and seems to work very well for all parties (provided both parties adhere to their ronsibilities, not just their rights).
Personally I find it very off putting in England, and particularly in the USA, when many beautiful places are closed and off limits to anybody other than a few (who are often absent anyway).
But if you don't like it, just stay where you are
 
pmagowan said:
And a very good thing it is too. You can anchor up where you like, row ashore and walk over the land to the nearest pub without fear of someone setting the dogs on you for tresspass. I think it should apply to the whole of the UK although norn iron still has historic (and not so historic) reasons that might prevent it!
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A pity the Republic of Ireland doesn't have the same right to roam as Scotland. It would benefit their tourism industry just the same
 
dylanwinter said:
I have never encountered it before - and it came hot on the heels of my explaining the exemplary system of access rights in geographically enlightened Scotland

then to encounter an angry toff telling us to sling our hook came as a bit of sad shock

it rather took the edge off our lunchtime pleasure

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Maybe he had lobster pots down?
 
Just to bring this back, Dylan didn't even attempt to roam. He tried to anchor below the low water mark and although I'm no legal eagle I don't recall any legislation which says that's off limits. It sounds as though the guy was pissed about the view being altered for a couple of hours. Let's be honest, he's just plain rude!
 
BlowingOldBoots said:
He needs to really take a long hard look at himself if people are queuing up to shit on his land, I don't suppose he is a prosecutor by any chance in divorce settlements, that may explain it. Pissed off wives, divorcing sailing husbands, who, after being kicked out and having to handover the house, and half the pension, half the savings, half of everything except the boat, finds that the only satisfaction left is shitting on his ex wife's solicitors land. I can understand that.
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Your talents are wasted chucking pipe in the ground, you should be a script writer. You should go to Hollywood? The walk would do you good as well..
 
The other morning I came out of the cabin and was making my way to the beach for my first sh1t of the day, I always do it down there, one of the many advantages of being alone on a small island, much more hygienic than a septic tank too. Just getting ready to squat and this really ugly boat turned up and anchored right opposite my favourite rock. The skipper was not that pretty either, public school type and he had the look of a film maker about him. Not wanting to risk exposing my white ar$e to his camera, I told him to sling his hook, which fortunately he did.
I do not to trust him not to return though, they become obsessed by common bodily functions at those places.
 
Quandary said:
The other morning I came out of the cabin and was making my way to the beach for my first sh1t of the day, I always do it down there, one of the many advantages of being alone on a small island, much more hygienic than a septic tank too. Just getting ready to squat and this really ugly boat turned up and anchored right opposite my favourite rock. The skipper was not that pretty either, public school type and he had the look of a film maker about him. Not wanting to risk exposing my white ar$e to his camera, I told him to sling his hook, which fortunately he did.
I do not to trust him not to return though, they become obsessed by common bodily functions at those places.
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boarding grammar school - run by the state

D

Ps - fascinating thread - I had no idea there were so many sailors who think that it is fine to annexe bits of public property
 
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Seven Spades said:
I wouldn't call it remarkable, it is simply terrible. If I had bought a private island and paid for it then I wouldn't expect any Tom Dick or Harry to go wondering over my land, it is like the land has been nationalised without out compensating the owners of that land for their loss. It is nothing to be proud of unless you are a card carrying Communist.
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I think you illustrate the entire point and purpose of legislation like this. It's not communism. Land in Scotland could be had for as little as £2 an acre if it couldn't be worked. So your opinion could easily see huge swathes of the country out of bounds to all.
To be realistic, my real response is...twat!
 
Resolution said:
Remarkable or terrible - your view is probably going to be influenced by whether or not you are a large landowner (or tenant farmer). Pretty much everyone else stands to gain from the extra access rights. Even as a non-landowner I wonder whether this is the thin end of the Communist wedge.
Worth noting that in England we have for ages had similar arrangements in the case of public rights of way over otherwise private land. Every time I take my dog out for a walk I should be thankful for the enjoyment of these footpaths through beautiful countryside.
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Not quite, it only applied to established rights of way, and God forbid you step off it.
In Scotland it was always possible to go where you wanted, as trespass required proof of damage. This legislation just clarifies it and makes both sides aware of their obligations in both owning and accessing the countryside of Scotland.
As such it is indeed a remarkable piece of legislation.
 
Seven Spades said:
I wouldn't call it remarkable, it is simply terrible. If I had bought a private island and paid for it then I wouldn't expect any Tom Dick or Harry to go wondering over my land, it is like the land has been nationalised without out compensating the owners of that land for their loss. It is nothing to be proud of unless you are a card carrying Communist.
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Don't by a Scottish island since you may be disappointed.
 
Scottish has some significant differences from English Law. The Laws on Land ownership are quite different and the roots of them go back to before Scotland and England existed. There appears to have been new legislation which updates or clarifies what had been "Scottish Common Law"

Oddly. Although I still own some land in Scotland, its a complicated and I'm not sure I fully understand all the ins and outs. I don't own the land I own the Fue. I even have a Feudal Superior. Who apparently has the right to insist I fence it and has a say in hanging ma laundry oot. :)
Might have changed I haven't checked for a while.
The Feudal bugger on Aran object to signs for some reason and has the right to as the Feudal Lord.

Come the revolution we can fix all that. Not in a hurry to change. The revolutionaries want me to sell mine.
 
Uricanejack said:
Scottish has some significant differences from English Law. The Laws on Land ownership are quite different and the roots of them go back to before Scotland and England existed. There appears to have been new legislation which updates or clarifies what had been "Scottish Common Law"

Oddly. Although I still own some land in Scotland, its a complicated and I'm not sure I fully understand all the ins and outs. I don't own the land I own the Fue. I even have a Feudal Superior. Who apparently has the right to insist I fence it and has a say in hanging ma laundry oot. :)
Might have changed I haven't checked for a while.
The Feudal bugger on Aran object to signs for some reason and has the right to as the Feudal Lord.

Come the revolution we can fix all that. Not in a hurry to change. The revolutionaries want me to sell mine.
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Crikey you have been away for a while. Feudalism was abolished in 2000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_Feudal_Tenure_etc._(Scotland)_Act_2000
 
"Scotland could be had for as little as £2 an acre if it couldn't be worked. So your opinion could easily see huge swathes of the country out of bounds to all."
This is exactly what has happened in Patagonia: huge (by which I mean areas the size of English counties) all fenced off: no entry. You can drive hundreds of miles without seeing a house but you are effectively in a 50 metre wide corridor you cannot leave.
 
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