A Referendum to End Boating as We Know it in the UK

[Steve C Cronin]

Question 1;

"Should private UK citizens be allowed to continue to set sail in boats without prior qualifications?"

Question 2;

"Should private pleasure vessels be required to give way to all commercial craft at all times"

The result would of course be 1; NO and 2; YES

Keep your heads down!

 

[jac]

Think you need to transpose the answers but so as not to feed the troll I'll go no further

 

[jerrytug]

Don't be in too much of a hurry to dismiss the old CQR, I've been using one for years and never dragged.

 

[dylanwinter]

Don't be in too much of a hurry to dismiss the old CQR, I've been using one for years and never dragged.

does this apply to jetskis

 

[webcraft]

does this apply to jetskis

Only if they are flying the saltire.

- W

 

[Bobc]

If you're switching to Propane, you'll need a different regulator.

Otherwise it's all gas to me.

 

[webcraft]

If you're switching to Propane, you'll need a different regulator.

OfGen?

- W

 

[RichardS]

Only if they are flying the saltire.

- W

From the port spreader I hope!

Richard

 

[chinita]

This thread is Raggist. 'Setting Sail' does not apply to a Stinkpot.

 

[uxb]

This thread is Raggist. 'Setting Sail' does not apply to a Stinkpot.

Separate carbon footprint regulation will be implemented forth with.

And on the Clyde and maybe the Solent as well.

 

[Steve C Cronin]

The original post was made, in all seriousness in response to two earlier posts, one concerning a fear expressed on the lounge with regard to non-boaters attitudes to us and the other addressing the Cowes incident. However, it seems that a certain faction, previously only vociferous in "The Lounge" has gotten itself in here and attempted to trash a serious question which SHOULD deeply concern us all.

 

[Tranona]

The original post was made, in all seriousness in response to two earlier posts, one concerning a fear expressed on the lounge with regard to non-boaters attitudes to us and the other addressing the Cowes incident. However, it seems that a certain faction, previously only vociferous in "The Lounge" has gotten itself in here and attempted to trash a serious question which SHOULD deeply concern us all.

Both subjects have been done to death here. There is little going on that is likely to change the status quo - rather the opposite. Proposals for compulsory licencing at EU level have been knocked on the head recently. There seems to be no evidence that the number of incidents involving leisure boats and commercial vessels is either significant or on the increase.

So where is the pressure coming from to justify a "referendum"? We have responsible bodies charged with making policy on our behalf. None of them seem interested in making any changes.

 

[Steve C Cronin]

Both subjects have been done to death here. There is little going on that is likely to change the status quo - rather the opposite. Proposals for compulsory licencing at EU level have been knocked on the head recently. There seems to be no evidence that the number of incidents involving leisure boats and commercial vessels is either significant or on the increase.

So where is the pressure coming from to justify a "referendum"? We have responsible bodies charged with making policy on our behalf. None of them seem interested in making any changes.

I would caution against such confidence. All it takes is for one of the media "Consumer Interest" programmes to get hold of one or both of these issues and one of the political parties to take it on as a cause and we're ALL stuffed.

 

[Tranona]

I would caution against such confidence. All it takes is for one of the media "Consumer Interest" programmes to get hold of one or both of these issues and one of the political parties to take it on as a cause and we're ALL stuffed.

There is also such a thing as scaremongering. The current situation is well entrenched. There is agreement from all the interested bodies that no changes are necessary and there are no votes in it for politicians on the make to be bothered. Not a head in the sand attitude, just a reflection on following these issues for more years than I care to think about.

Or do you have some inside information that suggests otherwise?

 

[Bilgediver]

does this apply to jetskis

No they aint boats or ships

 

[DJE]

Only if they are flying the saltire.

- W

And a red hanky.

 

[Lakesailor]

Probably more cause for concern is if the "authorities" decided that boaters were a profit-centre waiting to be exploited. Plenty of scope for self-financing gov. depts

 

[Rigger Mortice]

Question 1;

"Should private UK citizens be allowed to continue to set sail in boats without prior qualifications?"

Question 2;

"Should private pleasure vessels be required to give way to all commercial craft at all times"

The result would of course be 1; NO and 2; YES

Keep your heads down!

I don't want to see number 1 introduced but, if it were, I wouldn't lose any sleep about it. AFAIK Number 2 has not been seriously proposed and would contradict COLREGS so I doubt it would get anywhere if it were suggested.

Why have a have a referendum with no poll attached?

 

[Bosun Higgs]

Think you need to transpose the answers but so as not to feed the troll I'll go no further

Not a troll - he's simply making the popint that if there were a referendum in the uk, those are the answers we would get. And he's right. Something like a repeat of the 79 fastnet could easily trigger that reaction.

 

[CAPTAIN FANTASTIC]

All motor boats, cargo ships and tankers should give way to sailing yachts; jet-skis should provide a compulsory taxing service to sailors from swinging mooring to land and back if need at all times and assist with groceries and supplies, then wait for further instructions.