nortada
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By sea - one hop
Additional bonus qualifying leg for Yachtmaster Ocean - not that the EU will recognise it.
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By sea - one hop
Additional bonus qualifying leg for Yachtmaster Ocean - not that the EU will recognise it.
jordanbasset
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That is the situation as I understand it Vic, many refugees from Syria etc have been given residence in one country or another, a lot in Germany. That does not give them freedom of movement to come to the UK, for example, to stay
Tranona
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While that is correct - it is only because the UK is not in the Schengen area. They are free to move around most of continental EU. There are other ways being in the EU that allows them the right to take up residence in the UK for example by marrying an EU citizen.
jordanbasset
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http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_data/docs/pressdata/en/jha/113463.pdf
'Concerning free movement, third country nationals with a long-stay visa are put on the same footing as third country nationals holding valid residence permits: They will be able to move freely for up to three months in any six-month period within the territories of the other Schengen states. This is important for two reasons: First, for the general purpose of free travel within the Schengen area and second, for the specific purpose of transit through another Schengen state when returning from the country that issues the visa.'
Pretty much what I thought it was, you are still only allowed 3 months in any 6 months in the rest of the E.U., it does not give you freedom of movement which we currently enjoy
I appreciate with Schengen it is difficult to enforce but if you do come into contact with officialdom in your travels and you have breached the 3 month time period there will be consequences. These could include a fine, immediate deportation or getting banned from entering the Schengen Zone for a specific amount of time.
If you have a boat that could be very difficult and I personally would not take the risk, others might
'Concerning free movement, third country nationals with a long-stay visa are put on the same footing as third country nationals holding valid residence permits: They will be able to move freely for up to three months in any six-month period within the territories of the other Schengen states. This is important for two reasons: First, for the general purpose of free travel within the Schengen area and second, for the specific purpose of transit through another Schengen state when returning from the country that issues the visa.'
Pretty much what I thought it was, you are still only allowed 3 months in any 6 months in the rest of the E.U., it does not give you freedom of movement which we currently enjoy
I appreciate with Schengen it is difficult to enforce but if you do come into contact with officialdom in your travels and you have breached the 3 month time period there will be consequences. These could include a fine, immediate deportation or getting banned from entering the Schengen Zone for a specific amount of time.
If you have a boat that could be very difficult and I personally would not take the risk, others might
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nortada
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How long is a long stay visa and anybody got one?
sailaboutvic
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I not sure there is a long stay visa , visa for Europe for non EU is 90 in 180 days .
Germany did have some kind of extended visa for Turkey once but since the problem , I think that's come to a end .
And I think US citizens have some kind of agreement in France . To extend there visa .
GHA
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Applying for Irish passport today, hoping that should take care of Europe.
nortada
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Posted more details on Long Stay (D) Visas at: http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthrea...h-March-2019-amp-Beyond&p=6545559#post6545559
macd
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You do realise, I hope, that this will give you freedom of movement every day except 17 March, when you'll only have the freedom to fall over?
Enjoy. (I have two Irish great grandparents, so just a little bit jealous.)
GHA
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No change there then
Heckler
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What happened before we joined? Did we not go sailing?
sailaboutvic
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My view too , only sure way as yet is dual nationality, for now anyway .
Fingers cross GHA
Heckler
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In Ferrgudo and talking to a Belgian skipper, he says eu is crazy, if you is illegal immigrant they will give you accommodation, money etc, if you is British they will kick you out and fine you for having red diesel in your tank! So money to spend, punish you, no money, give give give!
sailaboutvic
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We did Stu but most people for short time , the problem now is there people spending long months away .
Plus there was so little living full time that official never. Bother them ,
Heckler
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Vic, mate did that, his Irish reg run out, big probs now renewing!
sailaboutvic
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Stu , so far I found no reason why you can't have dual nationality and keep your boat on the SSR as long as you can apply to the SSR rules .
macd
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Just out of interest, what nationality are you, English evidently being your second language? Illegal immigrants, incidentally, are illegal; you and your Belgian acquaintance may be thinking of asylum seekers. This should help if you need to apply: https://www.gov.uk/claim-asylum Help is also available for the language test.
Then he might consider registering it somewhere else. Flag state is irrelevant to EU fiscal status of a pleasure craft.
Heckler
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Do keep up at the back! I was quoting the Belgian whose English I quoted! If you want to do sarcasm, suggest you take a few lessons!
The Guy with a second passport, Irish, doesnt have an address in the UK or Ireland! so next!
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sailaboutvic
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Stu if I understand him correctly in per posting his plain is to go back to distain shore so he won't have the problem we have . Wish him luck any way , we all in the same boat .
nortada
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Worry not, I have little doubt the whole issue will be sorted well before Brexit.