A Little Note On Red Diesel

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On talking to my little marina girl. It seems folk are asking for and getting any sort of percentage, they ask for, So not neccesarily 60/40 split. The rule that you can only predict future use for fuel and not use recent evidence, is rediculas.

On the other hand, at there sister Marina (Diganway) Customs have questioned customers on there use.

Conwy and Diganway are a few hundred yards apart, across the river.

By the way. Conwy are charging £1. 12 On a 60/40 spilit.
 
Robbin Gits ! he use to work with Richard Turpin.

£1.12p would mean they are selling it at the same price as white?

Tom

You pay for the convenience i expect.

It isnt much fun lugging containers of diesel around (spoken as a person who has chosen this route)

White diesel is more than £1.12 now though!!!
 
Just paid exactly £1/litre for 60/40 at MDL on the Hamble. (Believe its only 88p if you actually berth there) Yarmouth would not quote a 60/40 figure, they just said £1.21 for the taxed bit, 79.5p for the untaxed bit. Said it was illegal to quote a 60/40 figure
 
Inc' full duty and VAT

If it is 1.12 on a 60/40 split it must be way over road prices on 100%.
Mind, we always knew it would be, based on low turnover compared to road fuel.
 
Ouch!!!

We pay 65ppl for red. However the last time we where forced to fill up whilst out was at Hull and that was 84ppl.
 
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WEll, It's nice to know the price of fuel up and down.

But the post was making 3 points.

1/ Folk are asking for all sorts of percentages of fuel split. Not jut 60/40.

2/ It seems it is being checked by customs, at least to some degree.

3/ You can only declare what your future use is going to be, not what you have used the fuel for. With last winter being the coldest for 30 years, how would you have known this beforehand. I had to refuel, only because the tank that supplies the heating also, was low. Do I presume next winter will be as bad as this, there fore going for a 80/20 split, favouring the heating. What happens if the weather is good and we use the boat far more and dont need heating so much.
 
The law is that it is up to the customer to declare his propulstion/domestic ratio, not for the seller to influence them. If they dont declare, in writing, the seller is obliged to add 100% duty. 60/40 is only a guide to what HMRC consider reasonable.
 
Just paid exactly £1/litre for 60/40 at MDL on the Hamble. (Believe its only 88p if you actually berth there) Yarmouth would not quote a 60/40 figure, they just said £1.21 for the taxed bit, 79.5p for the untaxed bit. Said it was illegal to quote a 60/40 figure
Yarmouth have great difficulty explaining the price - i posted on this once before, after a major argument with them.

I reported them to Trading Standards because of the way they quote, which is probably why they are very cagey. Even TS are confused because there are so many different ways of quoting the price. Even within Yarmouth and Lymington, three different outlets within in sight of each other, advertise the price differently and TS cant decide who is right or wrong.

79.5p for 0% duty is very expensive, at today's prices. Must be their higher delivery costs.
 
Had a 'phone around the other day for prices. Sovereign Harbour 91p/lt Chichester 92.3p/lt Berthon 93p/lt Newhaven 1.17/lt anyone else seen cheaper?

Those must have been 60/40 prices for the first three and 100% for Newhaven.

It is essential that the outlet can explain how they derive their prices, which is why Yarmouth keep getting their knickers in a twist because they cant.
 
65ppl seems fairly typical for tax free agricultural red. But it would be illegal to put that in a boat for propulsion purposes. Fine for your heater or generator though. :rolleyes:


I thought that red had tax on it, so would it only be the marin that lost out if we used red from a garage!

I would have thought that HMGov would have been OK with us using normal red.


Tom
 
I forgot to say in my earlier post that top marks should go to MDL for the very clear and excellent signage on the fuel berth. The cost of both petrol and 60/40 disel was displayed in very large numbers that could be easily seen from the opposite side of the river.

I wish all marine fuel berths did this.
 
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