Stoshak
Well-Known Member
There, is that better?
I was not terribly impressed with most of your post, but I thought you did John Davis a great disservice, hence I only quoted the relevant material.
Not Itchenor or RN I'm afraid
A bit heavy handed?
- Thread starter nicho
- Start date
There, is that better?
I was not terribly impressed with most of your post, but I thought you did John Davis a great disservice, hence I only quoted the relevant material.
Not Itchenor or RN I'm afraid
Seajet
...
I'm talking as a lifelong harbour user who has seen the comings & goings + maintainence in some trendy well paying places but not others, zero patrols in non trendy areas which happen to include listed ancient monuments...
Lakesailor
Well-Known Member
What a pleasant and reasonable response, I am surprised you have lasted so long here
You are supposed to go of in a hissy fit slagging off all those that disagree with you. This then gives others the opportunity to either slag you off or the people disagreeing with you. This in turn allows others to accuse people of getting their friends to gang up on them Before you know it 8 pages have gone by and every one has forgotten what the thread was about anyway
I'm afraid you have blotted you copy-book disastrously. You need to engage in a really vitriolic tirade for your next few appearances.
SpottyDog5
Well-Known Member
I don't really see a "great disservice" all Seajet stated "the last ex-RN bod croaked"
oldharry
Well-Known Member
John Davis did an excellent job of putting the Harbour on the map, and pulling it through into the 21st Century, reflected in his OBE etc, but as a Harbour master he had his problems trying to balance the AONB, SSSI, and conservation interests against the conflicting needs of Harbour users. Many of us while respecting his overall strategy had serious misgivings about how he actually ran the harbour, and Seajets comments reflect on that.
Many of us felt he was too busy spending harbour dues on planting trees, rather than pulling the harbour facilities up to scratch. Compare the immaculately gravelled hard with never a dollop of mud in sight even at LW, neat car park, carefully maintained pontoon landing etc at Itchenor with the landing I have to use, a strip of coarse shingle, with rusty old chains, no proper access from land, and more than a couple of hours after HW deep mud, rubble and rubbish to contend with as you come ashore. Chalk and Cheese. I and many others complained to the good Lt Col. Basically his reply was 'tough, pay up or else'. Apparently it wasnt worth clearing it up as 'not enough people used it'. I wonder why?
At least the new Man has actually sent a work party in , and we can now get ashore without risking smashing our dinghies and outboards on the rubbish. Not that its much improvement. A day or two's work for a couple of men with a JCB would transform it. But as Seajet says, its too far from 'Head Office': out of sight out of mind.
OP seems to have arrived just in the middle of a major clampdown on non-payers. The Patrols have been round checking every boat, and its not just a handful of dinghies not showing harbour dues paid plaques, there are hundreds, some quite big boats.
It must be more than a little irritating for them that quite so many people are flouting the rules: Harbour dues here are not excessive. It is dead easy to pay on line nowadays, and they will even go out and attach your plaque for you. It always was possible by snail mail, and there is no need to go to Itchenor in person. It couldnt be much easier. So no, I am afraid I dont have a lot of sympathy if they are being stroppy about it. Too many people are trying to buck the system - they have to do something about it.
But Seajet is right, the further you are from 'Head office' the worse it gets. bad enough where I am, right down the Western end of the harbour where he is it must be dire.
Many of us felt he was too busy spending harbour dues on planting trees, rather than pulling the harbour facilities up to scratch. Compare the immaculately gravelled hard with never a dollop of mud in sight even at LW, neat car park, carefully maintained pontoon landing etc at Itchenor with the landing I have to use, a strip of coarse shingle, with rusty old chains, no proper access from land, and more than a couple of hours after HW deep mud, rubble and rubbish to contend with as you come ashore. Chalk and Cheese. I and many others complained to the good Lt Col. Basically his reply was 'tough, pay up or else'. Apparently it wasnt worth clearing it up as 'not enough people used it'. I wonder why?
At least the new Man has actually sent a work party in , and we can now get ashore without risking smashing our dinghies and outboards on the rubbish. Not that its much improvement. A day or two's work for a couple of men with a JCB would transform it. But as Seajet says, its too far from 'Head Office': out of sight out of mind.
OP seems to have arrived just in the middle of a major clampdown on non-payers. The Patrols have been round checking every boat, and its not just a handful of dinghies not showing harbour dues paid plaques, there are hundreds, some quite big boats.
It must be more than a little irritating for them that quite so many people are flouting the rules: Harbour dues here are not excessive. It is dead easy to pay on line nowadays, and they will even go out and attach your plaque for you. It always was possible by snail mail, and there is no need to go to Itchenor in person. It couldnt be much easier. So no, I am afraid I dont have a lot of sympathy if they are being stroppy about it. Too many people are trying to buck the system - they have to do something about it.
But Seajet is right, the further you are from 'Head office' the worse it gets. bad enough where I am, right down the Western end of the harbour where he is it must be dire.
Seven Spades
Well-Known Member
I think that this is an arrogant and rude reply, he knows you have paid and he knows you are a long way from your boat. It is quite a simple process for his bods to attach a sticker since they know you have paid. Quite frankly I don't know why they want the sticker attacked in the first place, they know which are visitor boats and which are resident boats. They also know which resident boats have not aid harbour dues. I think I would tell him to stuff it and move the boat elsewhere.
Lakesailor
Well-Known Member
Give a bloke a hat and see what happens.
prv
Well-Known Member
It's not a reply, and it's not personalised to the OP's situation. It's clearly a standard letter sent to the owner of any boat seen without a sticker but for which there is a record of payment.
Pete
Lakesailor
Well-Known Member
It's quite typical of an organisation run by accountants who have no interest or concept of customer relations.
Robin
Well-Known Member
Me too and I left there in 1970. I made a vey wise decision back then in moving to Poole. prettier, more accessible and way less money grabbing. Do these people know nothing at all about good customer relations, not give a fig or do they just maybe hate non locals? SWMBO has a saying 'what goes round comes around' They should duck now.
Last edited:
jordanbasset
Well-Known Member
Yes but he has been fortunate, others have graciously given their time to give a master class in how forumites should post and react to posts on this thread
Piers
Well-Known Member
In business, Customer Service is paramount. Seems as if this is somewhat lacking from what you say, so why not move somewhere where service is treated as paramount - Haslar. I had excellent times there before moving to Beaucette. So accommodating, so willing to help (with no £10 charges!)
nicho
RIP
***** off.....there's a start
D
Deleted member 36384
Guest
I kid you not, the dog ate mine! I retrieved the un-chewed half and stuck into the holder.
oGaryo
Well-Known Member
tsk, I think you'll find that word has 4 **** not 5. vitriol is clearly not in your blood, try harder
nicho
RIP
tsk, I think you'll find that word has 4 **** not 5. vitriol is clearly not in your blood, try harder
I actually spelt the four letters out in full, knowing it would be "starred", but it obviously has another default setting to further disguise the intended word!! You can ***** off as well..........*******s, it's done it again, but you get my drift!! That too? Oh, I give up, much easier to be polite......
nicho
RIP
Had to smile. A number of years ago, we bought a second hand mobo (via a broker who took it in part exchange) that was based in Chichester Marina. Our "new" boat proudly displayed it's "plaque" on the port rear quarter having been paid for by said previous owner. His new boat eventually arrived, and was berthed on the same pontoon as ourselves. One night, he crept up and nicked our sticker!! We never noticed, and he fessed up one day over a couple of pints (or more) - his reasoning was, he'd paid for it and it was his!!. Cheeky sod!
neilf39
Well-Known Member
What a load of old women you all are. Standard wording, it's on the paperwork each year around renewals. Stickers make it easy for patrols to quickly check boats. If you want personalised letters and not have stickers expect larger harbour dues to cover the expense. You are complaining about them when you couldn't even be bothered to go online and check out the harbour you were going to make your home port.
Giblets
Well-Known Member
Careful what you all wish for regarding the plaques/stickers. They could decide to use gert big numbers like wot they do on Windemere for all the resident boats! T'would make their job of spotting and charging visitors a lot easier. 
nicho
RIP
Oh dear, go back and read my original post. Fully aware of the harbour, it's rules, regulations and harbour dues, having been berth holders there for several years, albeit 5 years ago. My gripe was the follow up e-mail having paid the dues, in my opinion, in a timely manner.