A battery question

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I'm looking at using a Yuasa YBX9096 battery close to the bow thruster to provide the thruster with a few more amps.
It a long way from the 500 amp hour domestic bank and although there are very heavy cables feeding the thruster, there must be a significant voltage drop, because it's a 12v 5 Kwatt thruster and if the voltage drops to 10 volts, it could take 500 amps.
The Yuasa would be connected in parallel with the domestic bank, but with very short cables to the thruster, so would probably see most of the load.

I have two questions about the Yuasa YBX9096:

1) Cold Cranking Amps (EN1) is 760 amps at -18C, how much more is it likely to provide at say +10C? The reason for asking is that EN1, allows the battery voltage to drop to 7.5 volts after 10 seconds. 7.5volts is much lower than I want to go.

2) The spec' sheet say that the "Recommended Charge Rate is 4A". That seems very low for a 70 amp hr battery. My shore charger is a 3 stage 100 amp unit and the alternator has a 140 amp max output, so potentially the Yuasa could see a lot more than 4 amps when charging. I'm I likely to fry the battery?

The Yuasa YBX9096 is an AGM battery, and I don't want to spend a lot of money on a battery (there are some very good deals going on Yuasa YBX9096 at the moment) to go into the anchor locker. Although I'll protect it an epoxy coated plywood, it's likely to get knackered by sea water.
 
CCA is measured at -18c, MCA is measured at 0c, MCA would be 20-25% higher because of the higher temperature. At 20c you're going to be getting 80% or so more.

Don't worry about the available amps, it'll take what it needs. As an example, i was running a pair of big 6cyl engines a few days ago, total available alternator output 325a. The engine batteries were taking 2 amps and the partly depleted domestic bank was taking 80a max.
 
I'm looking at using a Yuasa YBX9096 battery close to the bow thruster to provide the thruster with a few more amps.
It a long way from the 500 amp hour domestic bank and although there are very heavy cables feeding the thruster, there must be a significant voltage drop, because it's a 12v 5 Kwatt thruster and if the voltage drops to 10 volts, it could take 500 amps.
The Yuasa would be connected in parallel with the domestic bank, but with very short cables to the thruster, so would probably see most of the load.

I have two questions about the Yuasa YBX9096:

1) Cold Cranking Amps (EN1) is 760 amps at -18C, how much more is it likely to provide at say +10C? The reason for asking is that EN1, allows the battery voltage to drop to 7.5 volts after 10 seconds. 7.5volts is much lower than I want to go.

2) The spec' sheet say that the "Recommended Charge Rate is 4A". That seems very low for a 70 amp hr battery. My shore charger is a 3 stage 100 amp unit and the alternator has a 140 amp max output, so potentially the Yuasa could see a lot more than 4 amps when charging. I'm I likely to fry the battery?

The Yuasa YBX9096 is an AGM battery, and I don't want to spend a lot of money on a battery (there are some very good deals going on Yuasa YBX9096 at the moment) to go into the anchor locker. Although I'll protect it an epoxy coated plywood, it's likely to get knackered by sea water.

I'm not sure the 70Ah bow battery will take most of the load, if it was discharging at a 3C rate, that would drag it down to about 10V, so that's 210A from the bow battery and 300A from the house bank.
At around 300A, the house bank is 0.6C rate, so should be over 2V/cell, 12V.
I'd suggest working out the resistance of the wiring and seeing of you can get better Volts/'c rate' data for the particular battery?


Don't forget that a notionally 12V thruster is designed to run in a real system, so it's not actually intended to
be fed from a zero resistance 12V supply giving it humungous stall current.
 
And just because it is rated as a 5kw thruster, does not mean if it drops to 10V, it could pull 500A ... as the voltage drops, the power drops (probably inverse sqaure law) so at 10V you'll find it is a 3kW thruster and probably pulling around 300A
 
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