2hp outboard - recommendations?

I forgot ....

Seagulls have one trait ..............

The prop design and make up of the o/bd is 3kts .... doesn't matter what you do still .... 3kts.

Power is actually similar to modern small ob/ds of similar cc's etc. so quoting more powerful honda etc. is not strictly true ......... what is true is the prop / gear design is different and provides more thrust etc.

Seagulls ........... 3kts !!

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Re: When was the last time anyone took a Seagull apart !!

We'll have to agree to differ.

Over the last 25 years or so I have come across many Seagulls & I can say without exception I have been glad to see the back all of them.


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Re: Arhhhh c\'mon Bigmart .... this\'ll bring a smile to yer face .... >

I know. Its run buy a guy who used to be Commodore of the Eventide Owners Assoc., I used to have an Eventide.

Don't get me wrong. I like antiques & when the older stuff was good or better than the modern I will say so.

On the other hand you have to call crap exactly what it is "Crap" & that is a Seagull summed up in one word.

Martin
 
I can endorse seagulls. Mine was £60. Starts easily every time. They are so basic anyone can perform the simple maintenance needed. If you only need an outboard for occasional use, why pay a fortune? And yes, mine has been totally submersed and was quite easy to start again. They are as tough as they are reputed to be. Saving Old Seagulls is a web site full of useful information.
 
Bob
Wise words. They may leak a bit of oily-petrol when in the car boot but in my experience they run for ever if you just do a bit of basic maintenance. They don't get knicked very often either. Paul
 
Seagull leaks ....

As many do and I am sure you do as well ... triuck is to close off fuel tap before getting to destination ... let it run dry, unclamp from dinghy and turn over so that carb is 'under' this then drains the carb chamber ...
Now when stowing make sure carb is upper most. This stops 99% of the problem ... I used to also have a plastic container cut to sit the head in ... so that any wayward drip stayed in the plastic cntr .... not on carpet etc.
 
We bought a 2hp Yamaha from a man in a pub for £100 and it has been brilliant. It ALWAYS starts first pull and had never ever stopped on us. Last year it spent some time upside down in the sea off Ireland. All we did was strapped it in its usual position on the back of the boat and left it for twelve hours. One pull and it started.

It seems to be a bombproof little engine, the lightest of all the two-strokes, and thrives on neglect. Turn the fuel off and chuck it in a locker or in the back of the car any way up, no worries. What more could you ask for from an engine?

I've recently watched owners of shiny new four strokes struggling to lift them then pulling and pulling to get them started. No thanks. I'll be sticking to two strokes until they are banned.

- Nick
 
Entirely agree Webcraft! My little Yam is slung in the back of the car, slung on the back of the dinghy, then slung on the back of the boat - for up to weeks at a time. Yet as yours, it too ALWAYS starts first pull (even at the beginning of the season) hot or cold.

As a matter of habit, I turn the fuel-cock off some distance from the slip so that the carb is near enough run dry each time, so there is no problem with fuel leaks in the car boot or gunge accumulating in the carb.

Fabulous little motor, as good and perhaps better, than it's predecessor on my boat, a Mariner 2. Use it with a 50:1 mix instead of the recommended 100:1 and it'll last for years and years. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Cheers Jerry
 
Mariner 2 / Yam 2 .....

Are basically the same unit different case as I believe ...... a Tohatsu ...

My Mariner 2 only ever stopped when the ducts were blocked .... service guy put airhose on it and blew all the shite out ... now its back to full bore again ....

great little machine ....
 
Honda,

Pluses
Air cooled no waterways etc
Centrifugal clutch
Mine starts first time (earlier ones had problems i believe)
No mixing petrol/oil

Minuses

Heavier
Have to watch how they are stored as oil everywhere.

I have had both and prefer the Honda
 
After reading all of the other responses I hardly dare offer an opinion, but anyway here goes:

Mercury 2.5hp 2-stroke: great, plenty of power, but the fuel tank leaked around the cap - "yes they do that quite a lot..." said the importer.
Plus the clips holding the top cover on are an engineering joke, and the transfers on the casing were glued on with a glue which was not resistant to petrol "What, do you mean you spill petrol on the casing when you fill the engine?"

After threatening a public, videotaped execution of the shoddy POS the importer sent me all the replacement parts free of charge. The clips were still useless, but at least the engine ran another couple of years before the water casing split and it spewed water everywhere, even though it did keep running long enough to get us ashore (Still needed the oars to get back to the boat though). The quoted price for a replacement block plus gasket set came to only £5 more than the price of a new engine.

OK, so what about 4-strokes? The Honda which I bought is heavy, noisy, spills oil in the back of the car and hardly has any power compared with the Mercury. Also, the oil filler access is a joke. Hard to believe that it comes from Honda, a company with a reputation for quality engineering design second to none in the world of automobiles.

But, it is still going.

Then of course, both of my Seagulls are probably still going, wherever the thieving b*****d who stole them is using them.

Conclusion, sail on other people's boats and not give a damn.
 
Have just bought a second hand Mercury 2.5hp for £50. Took leg off and cleaned water passages and bought new impellor and gasket at total cost of £19 and the engine runs like new. The catches that hold the top case on are missing and as they cost £16+ each I still use the elasticated straps engine came with. However still retain my trusty seagull as a backup. Paul
 
I think you mis spelt something. Like I said earlier. Seagulls put your back out, no tup.

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If you find any more second hand Merc 2.5's please let me know. It would be a pleasure to get the old one working without enriching the importer, and yes, mine had the cover held on with plastic ties after the second set of useless clips failed.
 
Re: Little grey Mariner job ....

Oh Gawd!!!

Numpty of the year - my previous comments about de-restricting little outboards apply to *MERCURY*, nor Mariner.

P.S. agree about silly clips to hold the lid on.

Just to set things straight for posterity.

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Re: Little grey Mariner job ....

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Hi, do any of your know anythng about these?

2HP Mariner - Any Good? Will it have Neutral ?

Cheers
 
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