220V power outlet in the heads

So long as its protected by an RCD, as all of the boat's mains electrics should be, I can see no objection if its placed where it won't get wet. If it is just to connect the dehumidifier why have a plug and socket at all? Just wire the thing straight back to an MCB on the mains panel. If you don't want to open up the dehumidifier to fit a longer cable consider cutting the conventional plug off and using a waterproof cable connector to join it to the cable back to the mains panel. Perhaps something like this, hidden out of sight: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Produc...x6mBAEfHmEs57TVkXOZgetndRe7WJwPxoC49UQAvD_BwE
 
simonfraser said:
That’s where the dehumidifier is.
Can mount it high up, no shower in the heads.
Seems ok to me, what do you guys recon ?
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I'd look at the restrictions on location of sockets in domestic bathrooms and follow as closely as possible. Google will find the info.

Without a shower ( or bath) there should be no problem. Up high should be fine .. or basically more than 60cm from the washbasin . The toilet appears to impose no restriction!
 
You cannot seriously consider putting a mains socket in the heads, it has a sink in there. It would need to completely waterproof and submersible, at least.

You will also note that boats do not have mains sockets in the galley, again because of the sink. Most boats also have no mains sockets in the main saloon, because the galley (hence the sink) is in there. We definitely do not have shore power sockets in the cockpit, think what would happen if it rained.































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Fit it where it won't get wet.
 
It is worth considering installing an outlet with a built in more sensitive 10ma RCD. In a wet environment this will provide some added protection over the general 30ma RCD.
 
Tnx guys,
i have a 220V outlet in the rear cockpit, will get seriously wet in the rain without the canopy, looks original :)
A 220V outlet within reach of the sink, aftermarket.
The socket for the dehumidifier will go high up, above the head sink. Tidiest place for it, will take some moronic action to electrocute some one. Don’t want to wire it in as its a small boat and i don’t want to leave it next to the heads.
i may need some elbow room ....
 
noelex said:
It is worth considering installing an outlet with a built in more sensitive 10ma RCD. In a wet environment this will provide some added protection over the general 30ma RCD.
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Not a bad idea. In the USA ITYWF that the ABYC requires 5mA RCDs in the galley and heads!
 
Ours are all standard factory fitted but we have one in both heads with sink and shower and of course one in the galley as you would expect. The ones in the head are tucked away slightly but not over the top.
 
PaulRainbow said:
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You will also note that boats do not have mains sockets in the galley, again because of the sink. Most boats also have no mains sockets in the main saloon, because the galley (hence the sink) is in there.
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Lots of fairly recent Jeanneaus have factory-fitted EU-type mains sockets in the galley - in my case under 3 ft from the sink. Almost all have them in the saloon if shorepower is fitted. If you applied the "3 metres from a shower or bath" rule applied to rented houses almost every socket on my Jeanneau would be wrong.

Nevertheless I would be a bit dubious about having a socket in the heads/shower area, even with a sensitive RCD.
 
jwilson said:
Lots of fairly recent Jeanneaus have factory-fitted EU-type mains sockets in the galley - in my case under 3 ft from the sink. Almost all have them in the saloon if shorepower is fitted. If you applied the "3 metres from a shower or bath" rule applied to rented houses almost every socket on my Jeanneau would be wrong.

Nevertheless I would be a bit dubious about having a socket in the heads/shower area, even with a sensitive RCD.
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Shower is on the rear bathing platform out the back :)

Nothing in the head is gona splash high enough to get to the power supply ....
 
Domestic regs mutter about sockets are to be 3 meters minimum from a bath or shower, obviously not practical on a boat. Think the reasoning is that portable appliances have cords less than 3 meters so you couldn't "accidentally" electrocute the wife by dropping the electric fire or hair straighteners in the bath ;)
 
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A socket in the heads is fine, as long as it's protected from splashes. My boat has a socket tucked away in the locker above the basin - ideal for the hair dryer.
 
matthewriches said:
Domestic regs mutter about sockets are to be 3 meters minimum from a bath or shower, obviously not practical on a boat. Think the reasoning is that portable appliances have cords less than 3 meters so you couldn't "accidentally" electrocute the wife by dropping the electric fire or hair straighteners in the bath ;)
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Not quite right. You are getting confused with "zone 2" which extends to 3m above a bath or shower but only 0.6 m horizontally either side

More detail on many websites eg https://tp24.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Bathroom-IP-Zones.pdf

PVB's socket above the washbasin should be fine provided it is 0.6m above the basin
 
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if you have any worries about it's location/splashes etc, you could just switch it off at the breaker or have a switch outside the heads for it, when it is not in use to minimise any potential
 
The German's don't seem to have worried about it. I've one in each heads fitted as built. Both are pretty high up and have covers over them and are away from where any direct exposure to water would be likely..
 
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