20kg Rocha or 60lb CQR?

[Pye_End]

Did you have dragging problems with the CQR?

Yes. Several times. Like so many, changed to a Rocna because of it. The last drag (in benign conditions) no one was on board - scary seeing your boat in a completely different place from where you anchored. Cause was change of tide and small waves at low water tugging the chain (hard sand).

replaced it with a brand new 20lb SL CQR I had lying around (as you do) and then went for a second hand 25lb one for peace of mind, even though I had had no problems with the 20lb.

Had to chuckle at that.

 

[NormanS]

Yes. Several times. Like so many, changed to a Rocna because of it. The last drag (in benign conditions) no one was on board - scary seeing your boat in a completely different place from where you anchored. Cause was change of tide and small waves at low water tugging the chain (hard sand).





Had to chuckle at that.

That's scary. It's almost impossible to believe that a properly anchored boat could drag, particularly at LW, in "benign" conditions. Maybe there were other factors that you're not telling us about?

 

[moomba]

I replaced my 20kg Bruce for a 25 kg Rocna , this was down to 2 points
1. I have watched many cruiser U tube channels of circumnavigations and every one had a Rocna and some have replaced their old anchors for a Rocna as they were constantly dragging , there is also video footage of other boats dragging in stormy anchorages with the Rocna holding all the time.
2. I contacted Knox anchors and asked their opinion as it was between the Rocna and the Knox and was advised in my current situation, circumnavigation in the the year, that to upgrade in sizes to the 25kg was the better option,
I only went with the Rocna based on there was little detail and reviews of the Knox but fundamentally they are nearly the same design,
So I have concluded after much research that the New Designed anchors are superior to the older versions especially the CQR
(My own opinion based on my research and not in any way classing other anchors less favourable )

 

[Pye_End]

That's scary. It's almost impossible to believe that a properly anchored boat could drag, particularly at LW, in "benign" conditions. Maybe there were other factors that you're not telling us about?

Had anchored the previous night in calm weather, but dug in as usual with plenty of revs. Tide turned when I was off the following day. Very little depth - a few inches under the keel. No snubber. Plenty of chain (30m). Hard sand, so difficult for a CQR to bite and dig in properly. Either the turn of direction took the CQR out or the combination of that and the small waves (and I am talking F2/3, nothing more) tugging a straight chain. After that, we all know the difference between trying to get a CQR back in v's a new gen - even harder when you are not there to help! Snubber may have helped. Best place for a CQR at that particular place is in the locker or in the garden.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Had to chuckle at that.

In my own defence, the boat originally came with a 25lb CQR (may have been the one I lost) and so I was only returning to the original spec ...

 

[JumbleDuck]

Had anchored the previous night in calm weather, but dug in as usual with plenty of revs. Tide turned when I was off the following day. Very little depth - a few inches under the keel. No snubber. Plenty of chain (30m). Hard sand, so difficult for a CQR to bite and dig in properly. Either the turn of direction took the CQR out or the combination of that and the small waves (and I am talking F2/3, nothing more) tugging a straight chain. After that, we all know the difference between trying to get a CQR back in v's a new gen - even harder when you are not there to help! Snubber may have helped. Best place for a CQR at that particular place is in the locker or in the garden.

Interesting. I've only dragged my CQR in two places: Ardinamir (where everyone drags) and An Caolas by Erraid. I don't usually count the latter because it was largely my fault: we went in for a quick visit to sort our weed round the prop, then stayed to enjoy the sun and I forgot to let out some more chain, so we only had about 2 1/2 times depth and away she went. Hard sand there too, though, which is quite unusual for Scotland.

 

[A1Sailor]

Thanks. I guess you have an unpleasant petty vindictive streak.

Quite the contrary, my dear fellow, which is precisely why I thought the Rocna representative's attempt to smear his rivals was deplorable.

I was being flippant.:encouragement:

 

[JumbleDuck]

I was being flippant.:encouragement:

And I was being obtuse. Sorry.

 

[A1Sailor]

Apology accepted.

 

[moomba]

Apology accepted.

I feel a Bromance forming :love_heart::love_heart: