12v corded vacuum cleaner recommendations, please

[Neeves]

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Rubbish.

I see not an iota of need for gravel to get anywhere near the interior of a yacht. Just get your housekeeping and rules in order and really all you need is a dust pan and brush (or a 12v vacuum), sand can be washed off in the cockpit, it is self draining and if you are at anchor you have plenty of water. If you are in a marina, what exactly do you use the deck wash for.

Simple stuff remove shore side shoes at toe rail don deck shoes - why is that holier than thou, complicated or original.

But if you don't have a tatty yacht - carry the sand, mud and gravel into the interior - and you will soon have a sad and tatty yacht. Your choice - but when you come to sell - I will look at your nasty deck and think - if the deck is like this what is the rest like - and walk on.

Our transoms have simple signs on the upright (risers?) of the steps

"No outdoor shoes"

Its why you are asked to remove your shoes at boat shows (or you are in Oz) - but then in Oz if visiting anyone it is common practice to take outdoor shoes off at the front door - its clean and healthy.

each to their own but religion does not come into it.

Jonathan

 

[Ric]

We've got a Black and Decker one, had it for about a month and pleased so far:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B015FO9XF8

Edit: This must be the replacement for the one you mention. Haven't had any issues with it so far.

I had one of those and it was utterly useless. A real pain to deploy and stow and was very unsucky if that is the right term.

I bought (before Brexit) a Dyson Car Vac and that is very good, but am boycotting that Dyson tax-dodging Singapore resident Brexit supporting idiot products from now on so can't recommend it really...

 

[Avocet]

I'm really not sure of the need for a vacuum cleaner that will remove gravel. Gravel on a boat (and more so on a yacht) seems a contradiction. If you are dragging gravel into the interior of a fibreglass yacht then you inhabit a different world to us.

We actually don't wear shoes on board and don't allow others to wear shoes either (though in bad weather we wear deck shoes that are deck shoes only) - but then we have a a 22 year old yacht with pristine decks and 10s of thousands on miles, primarily down in the Roaring Forties, under the twin keels. We climb the hills - and wear boots (that don't see the decks).

I'd suggest a re-appraisal of both foot wear and sailing in a quarry and then you can stick with a vacuum cleaner that can lift dust.

I'd have to repeat - a vacuum cleaner that can lift gravel might be acceptable in the aisles of a garden centre - but not on a yacht (that sails).

Jonathan

Thanks for that sage advice.

We have a 50 year old boat with decks that are past their first flush of youth. The boat is in a boatyard in Cumbria, on the hard, which is... er... gravel. (As is the shore from which we launch the tender when it's afloat - and, indeed, the islands that the kids used to love to "conquer" when they were younger). I probably COULD change shoes at the top of the ladder each time I go up and down it (not sure I much fancy barefoot, with a layer of frost on the deck, to be honest), but yeah, it's an option, I guess!

Meanwhile, I salute you on the state of your 22 year old decks. A credit to your fastidiousness, I'm sure!

 

[Avocet]

Thanks everyone.

I went for the Black & Decker PD1200AV-XJ in the end. To everyone who recommended cordless, I know they're great, but I have very little cordless stuff (and what I do have, is ancient DeWalt 12V stuff anyway). As someone said, battery stuff is great until the battery dies. As the boat has a battery of its own, and a solar panel, the boat's battery suits me just fine.

Bringing a mains domestic vacuum isn't really an option, as there is no mains power where we keep the boat. I'd have to bring a generator too.

The B7D one arrived yesterday, and I tried it in Mrs. Avocet's car this lunchtime. I'm quite impressed, to be honest. LOADS better than the one we have, and nicely thought out tools. It is obviously nothing like as good as a mains one, or even an 18V Li-ion, but for under £50, delivered, I'm more than happy. (And yes, it will pick up small bits of gravel, of about the size we typically get n the boat, so that's definitely a "win")!

 

[Alfie168]

Thanks everyone.

I went for the Black & Decker PD1200AV-XJ in the end. To everyone who recommended cordless, I know they're great, but I have very little cordless stuff (and what I do have, is ancient DeWalt 12V stuff anyway). As someone said, battery stuff is great until the battery dies.

That is the 12v plug in version of my cordless one with the duff battery. They are really good, which is why I am so hacked off about the lack of customer support from B&D.
Just remember to clean the filter regularly to keep it's efficiency. I use/ used an old toothbrush to brush out the crannies. You can wash it carefully, but it takes ages to dry, so generally just used the toothbrush method.

 

[Martin_J]

Strangely, I already have one of those Black and Decker vacuums but more often than not I use the dustpan and brush on board.

It was a pain to use because it trips the 12v sockets breaker after about half a minute of use so you have to be quick using it... and the 5m lead never quite reached where I needed it.

After reading the first few posts it got me thinking about getting the DeWalt one to go with the batteries that are already on board...



Maybe I should just persevere with the corded Black and Decker (and upgrade the 12v sockets/ wiring).

 

[Elessar]

Low voltage vacuum cleaners must always be a disappointment simply because we have become used to the one at home on 240v. They typically run about 1000 or more watts with 2 stage centrifugal compressor. There is no substitute for horsepower. I would suggest OP persevere with what he has but perhaps fit an outlet filter of some sort. ol'will

I don’t have corded at home. 2x Dyson. Just as powerful as corded.
Plus I had one on the boat. But the Dyson wand is long and it wouldn’t fit where I wanted to keep it.
My mum gave me a shark on which the wand folds for storage. That now lives on the boat.

 

[fredrussell]

After reading the first few posts it got me thinking about getting the DeWalt one to go with the batteries that are already on board...

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Maybe I should just persevere with the corded Black and Decker (and upgrade the 12v sockets/ wiring).

Inspired by this thread I have just purchased an Erbauer 18v vacuum (cheap 2nd hand off eBay) and I’m very impressed. Can deffo recommend 18v cordless if you already have matching tools/batteries on board. I’m sure the Dewalt one will pack a bit more punch than my Erbauer one.

 

[capnsensible]

Australia it is super clean,

From decks you eat yer tucker

You don't need no vacuume

Or any silly sucker

 

[fredrussell]

Gravel be the death of boats

‘tis often known to sink ‘em

Your soles be full of bloody stones

Mate, are you fair dinkum?

 

[coopec]

I know Avocet was wanting recommendations for a 12V corded vacuum however I think that would be a bad choice (I speak from experience as I have had one)

Having destroyed the inverter with a 240V wet/dry (my carelessness?) I've got myself an 18V Ozito.
Apparently the lobster fishermen at Lancelin (where I used to live) use them exclusively judging by the discarded vacuums on the rubbish dump.

As William says they would be no match for a 240V

PXC 18V Wet And Dry Vacuum Cleaner – Skin

 

[Skylark]

Thanks everyone.

I went for the Black & Decker PD1200AV-XJ in the end. To everyone who recommended cordless, I know they're great, but I have very little cordless stuff (and what I do have, is ancient DeWalt 12V stuff anyway). As someone said, battery stuff is great until the battery dies. As the boat has a battery of its own, and a solar panel, the boat's battery suits me just fine.

Bringing a mains domestic vacuum isn't really an option, as there is no mains power where we keep the boat. I'd have to bring a generator too.

The B7D one arrived yesterday, and I tried it in Mrs. Avocet's car this lunchtime. I'm quite impressed, to be honest. LOADS better than the one we have, and nicely thought out tools. It is obviously nothing like as good as a mains one, or even an 18V Li-ion, but for under £50, delivered, I'm more than happy. (And yes, it will pick up small bits of gravel, of about the size we typically get n the boat, so that's definitely a "win")!

I’m shocked to read that you pursued your stated requirement given how many times you were told how wrong you were to want such a device and secondly that better husbandry of your yacht would eliminate the need. Please take heed.

 

[gavin400]

Strangely, I already have one of those Black and Decker vacuums but more often than not I use the dustpan and brush on board.

It was a pain to use because it trips the 12v sockets breaker after about half a minute of use so you have to be quick using it... and the 5m lead never quite reached where I needed it.

After reading the first few posts it got me thinking about getting the DeWalt one to go with the batteries that are already on board...

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Maybe I should just persevere with the corded Black and Decker (and upgrade the 12v sockets/ wiring).

I have 2 of these - they are very powerful and wet/dry function is great.
Mine are quite old so use the old style batteries
It is a bit bulky

 

[coopec]

I’m shocked to read that you pursued your stated requirement given how many times you were told how wrong you were to want such a device and secondly that better husbandry of your yacht would eliminate the need. Please take heed.

Not as half as shocked as most of us.

You guys are not listening are you?

A 12V corded vacuum may be OK in a smallish yacht. I do have a couple of cigar lighter outlets but I would find cords an absolute pain