£20K boat for west coast scotland

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It looks possible that Mrs W will sanction the household purse leaking 20k for the purchase of a boat to keep on the West Coast for a couple of seasons. Purchase to take place this autumn. The 20k includes any essential repairs to make said boat seaworthy. I have been playing the long game, and by taking the family on enjoyable cycling and camping holidays have ensured that they are not the sort to require pampered luxury. However we do need enough space to live on the boat for a wet week on Mull without resorting to violence. No need for expensive instrumentation. So panel my requirements within my price range are:

enough room to swing a cat
monohull yacht
not too ugly
likely to retain value over two years of ownership
no need for sparkling sailing performance, but I would like to be able to sail off a lee shore dragging the remains of a pot marker with my prop (if necessary)
preferably 6ft headroom at chart table/ galley
midge proof and suitable for sailing in wet weather
I leave LOA at your discretion

so what do you suggest?

cheers R. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
How many kids and how old are they???

Sounds like 32 feet or so....
 
sorry, good point. 2 skinny wee girls age 9 and 11. Boat has to do them through to age 12 and 14.

R
 
Carter 33....


Good seaboat.... looks very pretty..
here....


How bout something Swedish...

Marieholme 32.... pretty boat, seaworth... long keel though..

Heres one...


A nice older Dufour 31.... Very pretty, sail well... good accomodation...

Lovely and red...

Here is a real nice Looking Albin Ballad! I'd have this one....

Great Looking boat...


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My vote would go for the Carter33, having owned a Carter 30. Very good sea boat, although a bit tender on a quartering sea, however a very good to windward. Also retained it's value over 3 yrs. Get it surveyed though, a problem area is the bulkhead between the forecabin and saloon where is goes into the sump and is always wet
 
My much admired 7.8mtr 5 berth Swedish built Albin Cirrus would fit the bill ideally, she has taken me safely many miles in all weather conditions around the west coast of Scotland during the last few years.......sadly she now needs to give me some time to finish upgrading my house.........take a look in the may edition of Scotlands yachting journal "Yachting Life" where all should be revealed!!....good luck whatever in your search....you have chosen Gods own sailing area.
 
Thanks folks, some good suggestions coming in. I like the look of the Carter. For a boat like this would you normally expect a tender, liferaft and kedge to be on the inventory? (just wondering for negotiation purposes!)

I do like the idea of a deck saloon in the west coast, for looking out of when its wet, but wonder if it is practical on a boat within my budget. They seem to come at the cost of a pretty cramped cockpit. Can a small person see forward when helming outside?

A big locker for taking bikes would also be a bonus.

R
 
ps, you can tell the Dufour hales from the 1970s. Check out the Orange bathroom fittings /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Again seems to be aboat at the right price which would fit the bill.

R
 
If you are looking for something a bitter better in the Rain... how bout a Beneteau Evasion....


A Bit more money and a Ketch...

As for Dingy and Liferaft and KEdge..... that is simply gonna depend on the individual boat... at this sort of price range for this size I would be focusing on the condition of the boat versus the inventory... Really you should probably focus on a grou of different boats that would do the job, and then look for the best condition boat... versus just focusing on one type of boat.... A Liferaft, Dingy and kedge will prbably cost new around £800pounds top for what you need... frankly I would rather have a nice new Liferaft whose history you know, and a nice clean dingy.... So I in the past have not been worried about that sort of inventory... more importantly look for one with a decent heater, and radar. Retrofitting those will set you back 2k... so they are worth while.
 
There was what looked to be a nice example of a fin keel Sadler 29 for 20k on YBW brokerage, specially reduced (pale blue hull) earlier in the week. It was a latish version 200?. Can't find it again so assume it may have sold. There are 2 other older ones going for £19,950. We had one for 9 years and packed in us, 2 kids (older than yours) and 2 boxer dogs. Not the most spacious of boats but sails like a dream (ours was bilge keel - East Coast so a fin would sail even better). V well insulated, comfortable. Only criticism is the galley on older ones is a bit of a pain.

Hope you find the boat you want
 
I am going to come in with a bit of a left field suggestion...

With a older MAB you are gonna have more maintanence issues than a newer boat... right now I think that their is some great value in newer AWB's of circa 30-33 feet.... with 35-40k buying some quite nice newer boats.. with more interior volume, seperate fore and aft cabins, modern deisels, etc....
With the two daughters I think that something more modern and cleaner and with seperate cabins, modern heads with shower, will all be a advantage in keeping them interested in the next few years....

I would suggest that in allowing up to 40k for the boat may be a better option.... Say you purchase something at 38k... put down 15k... and mortgage the 23k balance... this will cost around £250 per month...... Whilst that will not provide a trouble free boat... I suggest that you will have less problems, if bought carefully, than a MAB.... so the actuall difference cost wise may be less than at first appears.

38k should get something like...

Jeneau SO 32.2

or

Dufour 32 Classic...

or

This Bavaria 31....
 
Its not gonna be me that you need to pursuade to spend more! I will show your post to Mrs W but I think it is fairly safe to say that my budget is going to be restricted to £20k (unless my HBOS shares stage a sudden and unexpected recovery). I agree that a newish engine, shower and a seperate aft cabin would be a good thing, but I don't think all are going to be achievable on my budget.
 
With a budget of £20k and not restricted to a bilge keel, just about anything is possible in the current climate!

I bought my Sadler 29 for that last summer and am very happy with her, though I could probably have got a couple of grand off if I'd waited. There's a fin keel one for sale at Hollyhead.
 
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