90/180 days

[Graham376]

On a slightly different note, Portugal back into State of Calamity from 1st December and testing required for entry -

Airline fines of €20,000 per untested passenger - The Portugal News

 

[billskip]

On a slightly different note, Portugal back into State of Calamity from 1st December and testing required for entry -

Airline fines of €20,000 per untested passenger - The Portugal News

As said in an earlier post, it's the carrier that will be held responsible, it will filter down to the ...no jab /test no ticket.
I think they are going to have to come up with a solution at the door of the plane.

 

[sailaboutvic]

As said in an earlier post, it's the carrier that will be held responsible, it will filter down to the ...no jab /test no ticket.
I think they are going to have to come up with a solution at the door of the plane.

Both flights we taken so far we couldn't check in on line ,
When we did go to check in they wanted out QR code first.

 

[BurnitBlue]

Bot flgets we taken so far we couldn't check in on line ,
When we did go to check in they wanted out QR code first.

This happened to me with SAS. All isued boarding passes were cancelled. (Via sms text) New boarding pass only issued after presentation of the QR code. It took me three attempts to transmit the QR code due to readability issues. I was advised by SAS customer services to take a jpeg photograph of the complete document (covid EU passport) and send it to them via email. It was accepted immediately and new boarding pass authorized. I appied for the new bording pass from thier website which now had my QR code. All ok, and quite efficient, but 24 hours of stress for me.

 

[Graham376]

As said in an earlier post, it's the carrier that will be held responsible, it will filter down to the ...no jab /test no ticket.
I think they are going to have to come up with a solution at the door of the plane.

I would like to see a lateral flow test at the airport entrance, we found social distancing ended at the check in queue.

 

[billskip]

I would like to see a lateral flow test at the airport entrance, we found social distancing ended at the check in queue.

On return to LHR, everybody from everywhere just crammed together to funnel through immigration.

 

[Poignard]

On return to LHR, everybody from everywhere just crammed together to funnel through immigration.

Were most of them wearing masks?

 

[billskip]

Were most of them wearing masks?

I had to think about that, I couldn't say, I tend not to notice masks now.

 

[dunedin]

If any person runs the gauntlet, and tries to live outside the system so be it,its not something that should be considered as the norm.

So the Schengen 90/180 rules are clear - even if the degree of interest in enforcement is currently variable / limited, ahead of the new automated systems due late 2022.
But if somebody was unlucky enough to be caught by an official who wants to enforce the law - at worst case, if investigated and charged as an illegal immigrant, would one risk a civil or criminal conviction? The latter could have very serious repercussions.

 

[Clancy Moped]

I wonder who will be the first to be charged as an illegal immigrant because of stepping over the 90 days, deported, never to see their boat ever again....

 

[Poignard]

So the Schengen 90/180 rules are clear - even if the degree of interest in enforcement is currently variable / limited, ahead of the new automated systems due late 2022.
But if somebody was unlucky enough to be caught by an official who wants to enforce the law - at worst case, if investigated and charged as an illegal immigrant, would one risk a civil or criminal conviction? The latter could have very serious repercussions.

Even if you were not prosecuted, it could still be very awkward.

You might, to think of one example, have had to leave your boat in an EU Member State while you flew home for some reason; only to find you were not allowed to return.

 

[Poignard]

I wonder who will be the first to be charged as an illegal immigrant because of stepping over the 90 days, deported, never to see their boat ever again....

. . . . or be faced with paying many thousands of pounds to some boat transportation company to fetch her home.

 

[Clancy Moped]

. . . . or be faced with paying many thousands of pounds to some boat transportation company to fetch her home.

I'd imagine your boat would be seized as an asset and sold to pay for your fines and legal fees.

 

[billskip]

My guess is it will be hefty fines.
Doubt whether anyone would want to get involved in custodial stuff.
If you cant pay, they will charge the dept against you and you can say bye bye until you pay it.
I think this will also become the responsibility of the carrier to check your passport validity for the duration of your ticket. It will be not easy to buy one way tickets.

 

[Poignard]

I'd imagine your boat would be seized as an asset and sold to pay for your fines and legal fees.

Go on! You're just trying to cheer everybody up!

 

[Clancy Moped]

Me and a mate got deported from Italy for 5 years. The stamp in our passports was very large and bright red, and going to other countries it sparked a flag to customs to take quite a bit more interest in our movements.

 

[Poignard]

Me and a mate got deported from Italy for 5 years. The stamp in our passports was very large and bright red, and going to other countries it sparked a flag to customs to take quite a bit more interest in our movements.

Italian Job went wrong, did it? ?

 

[billskip]

Got a sneaky suspicion that a lot of rubber boats may be going in the opposite direction......

 

[sailaboutvic]

I suprise anyone leaves there home ?

 

[Clancy Moped]

Italian Job went wrong, did it? ?

I'll let you piece it together. The ingredients were local girls, New Year's Eve, copious amounts of alcohol, and some very protective brothers and jealous boyfriends....