beancounter
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Your new boat - made in Taiwan?
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Sailfree
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I always hoped some Asian manufacturer would go into the production boat building end of the market unfortunately these are going for the luxury end.
If the asian success in the motorcycle and car industries (and the improvements in quality they have forced on the surviving european manufacturers to make) it could change what always struck me as a cottage industry getting away with murder by selling dreams.
If the asian success in the motorcycle and car industries (and the improvements in quality they have forced on the surviving european manufacturers to make) it could change what always struck me as a cottage industry getting away with murder by selling dreams.
Mirelle
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More likely in China, unless you are a multi-millionaire
European boat manufacturers have been slow to move into China.
The Taiwanese, who have been building for the US market for thirty-five years at least, have been very quick to do so - most of the "competition" for Taiwanese builders is Taiwanese-owned facilities in the People's Republic.
European boat manufacturers have been slow to move into China.
The Taiwanese, who have been building for the US market for thirty-five years at least, have been very quick to do so - most of the "competition" for Taiwanese builders is Taiwanese-owned facilities in the People's Republic.
Evadne
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I made several visits to Taiwan about 10 years ago. It is a lovely place, and if it weren't for the flight duration would be on my list of holiday destinations: friendly people with a similar attitude to drinking and enjoying themselves as we in Britain have, wonderful food, a serious lack of western tourists and beautiful mountainous countryside.
While being shown around some of the local sights, I commented on the lack of yachts. I saw a bare half dozen in an area that would correspond to any of the UK's yachting centres outside of the Solent (in the north, around Keelung). The reason given was the proximity to mainland China, the assumption by local miltary vessels that any yacht must be engaged in illegal smuggling of goods or people and the likelihood of getting shot and arrested afterwards.
Nice to see things are looking up.
While being shown around some of the local sights, I commented on the lack of yachts. I saw a bare half dozen in an area that would correspond to any of the UK's yachting centres outside of the Solent (in the north, around Keelung). The reason given was the proximity to mainland China, the assumption by local miltary vessels that any yacht must be engaged in illegal smuggling of goods or people and the likelihood of getting shot and arrested afterwards.
Nice to see things are looking up.
Mirelle
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Agreed
Like you, I like the place and the people, and was given the same explanation for the paucity of yachts. But even then Taiwan was exporting huge numbers of boats to the USA; they are not usually sold under a name identifying their Taiwanese origin.
The other place where there "ought" to be more sailing than there is, is Japan.
Like you, I like the place and the people, and was given the same explanation for the paucity of yachts. But even then Taiwan was exporting huge numbers of boats to the USA; they are not usually sold under a name identifying their Taiwanese origin.
The other place where there "ought" to be more sailing than there is, is Japan.
twisterkai
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Re: More likely in China, unless you are a multi-millionaire
Re American market, fully agree. The yachts coming out of Taiwan put most european & british boat building companies to shame. The quality of the mainly teak interiors has to be seen to be believed. Only critisism would be for the quality of their GRP moulding, although I believe in the last ten years that has been addressed. Prior to that, I have yet to see a Hans Christian or Tayana (both producing well proven 'blue water' yachts) that didn't need extensive and unfortunately expensive remedial work below the waterline. Even taking that into consideration they still represent fantastic value for money, despite having to go, predominantly, accross the pond to get one.
Re American market, fully agree. The yachts coming out of Taiwan put most european & british boat building companies to shame. The quality of the mainly teak interiors has to be seen to be believed. Only critisism would be for the quality of their GRP moulding, although I believe in the last ten years that has been addressed. Prior to that, I have yet to see a Hans Christian or Tayana (both producing well proven 'blue water' yachts) that didn't need extensive and unfortunately expensive remedial work below the waterline. Even taking that into consideration they still represent fantastic value for money, despite having to go, predominantly, accross the pond to get one.
penultimate
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Re: More likely in China, unless you are a multi-millionaire
Agreed. I sailed a friend's Tayana 42 which he considered was better built than a Swan (and he used to be in the boat business). How would you stand importing a new Tayana vis a vis the dreaded RCD?
Agreed. I sailed a friend's Tayana 42 which he considered was better built than a Swan (and he used to be in the boat business). How would you stand importing a new Tayana vis a vis the dreaded RCD?
michael_w
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Re: More likely in China, unless you are a multi-millionaire
Don't get a Tayana 37 unless you like sailing very slowly.
Don't get a Tayana 37 unless you like sailing very slowly.
Superstrath
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Ahh, Keelung.
Some of the world's strongest ocean currents on the approach. Some of the world's highest cliffs, so you can see 'em on radar at stupid distances.
The Lenar Bar, The Americana......
And my trusty navigation textbooks, and my Ashley's Knots, pirate copies bought for buttons.
Early eighties. Went there a good few times.
Some of the world's strongest ocean currents on the approach. Some of the world's highest cliffs, so you can see 'em on radar at stupid distances.
The Lenar Bar, The Americana......
And my trusty navigation textbooks, and my Ashley's Knots, pirate copies bought for buttons.
Early eighties. Went there a good few times.
Norman_E
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I did not view it, but I thought I saw a big Taiwanese yacht at Southampton, possibly from Queen Long Shipyard? Priced quite a bit less than some others of equivalent size.
LadyStardust
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I have a baba 30, made in the TaShing yard in Taiwan I think in 1979. I agree that there have been problems with many of the hulls suffering Osmosis, partly through the materials used then. Generally the GRP lay-up is outstanding and very sturdy. Everything else about the build is stunning; I really recommend the Babas, Tashiba, Panda, and Tayanas to anyone wanting a tough and beautiful boat for passage making with style.