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... and you won't beleive it ....

PWCs terrorising folk trying to access beach on tenders

What you don't see on this clip is that the CG eventually arrived and moved them. Hopefully the local Gardai may be able to use the original footage to identify and prosecute these scum. The footage was taken by somebody who had just threaded their way through this to access the beach from one of the moored vessels. They had children on board who were terrified. Other tenders from the moored vessels had similar problems. The local PWC club was in dispair at the behaviour of these yobs (not members btw) ie all tarred with same brush.

A mandatory small craft register (ie big reg no on hull) and mandatory small craft insurance could go a long way to solving all such ills.

PS: There is a good photo post on cpb about the incident.
 
Yes I can see how that looks, but it's the tenders that already made it to the beech that had a bad time. Also the tender in the video detoured way down the beach to avoid them having observed the previous. Do you think the pwcs were ok then messing about like that near the moored craft. This is an area where bylaws prohibit the use of pwcs (ie with 200m of beach or foreshore).
 
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I think this demonstrates the fundamental truth about jet skis; that they are entirely pointless, and the only thing you can ever do on them is whizz around in circles, and make a lot of noise.

I always wonder how long people keep these things before realising the limit of their usefulness. There must be a healthy secondhand market......
 
orbister said:
I couldn't any of that. The jetskiers were tearing about and wetting each other by the shore, but the one tender - the bloke in a grey rubber inflatable - was left completely alone and in fact it looks as if one of the jetskis deliberately slowed down and turned away to avoid splashing him.
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I was just larking about the other afternoon doing wheelies on my Harley Davison on the main Dublin road when the plod took exception,Can't think why I hadn't hit anyone ,in fact I deliberately missed two cars so as not to frighten them
 
Achillesheel said:
I think this demonstrates the fundamental truth about jet skis; that they are entirely pointless, and the only thing you can ever do on them is whizz around in circles, and make a lot of noise.

I always wonder how long people keep these things before realising the limit of their usefulness. There must be a healthy secondhand market......
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couldnt agree more. every jet skiier i have met has been a total ****** with no consideration. they are boring after 10 mins, and just anoy everyone else, they require no skill and burn stupid amounts of fuel.

Cawsand bay is the prime example. no speed limit, 100's of boats on anchor trying to get some peace, always cut short by a group of these. (battery acid in the petrol tank works wonders for shutting them up!)
 
Well you can't say they were not in control, if all raggies had that much control of there boats :D:D:D


(they require no skill and burn stupid amounts of fuel.)


Yea! I sell them the Fuel!!!!!!
 
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sea said:
couldnt agree more. every jet skiier i have met has been a total ****** with no consideration. they are boring after 10 mins, and just anoy everyone else, they require no skill and burn stupid amounts of fuel.

Cawsand bay is the prime example. no speed limit, 100's of boats on anchor trying to get some peace, always cut short by a group of these. (battery acid in the petrol tank works wonders for shutting them up!)
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It's attitudes like that that drive wedges between the 'sailing' fraternity and the 'power' fraternity. You may not see the enjoyment of driving a PWC, but the PWC owners obviously do. As for the flippant 'they require no skill' that is not entirely true ... they may require less 'skill' to go forwards, but just like riding a bike, there is a HUGE difference in pottering along the road to some of the stunt biking that happens out there - so, whilst it doesn't take a lot of skill to ride a PWC, the rider may have a lot of skill and be able to do all sorts that you can't even think of.
Likewise - it doesn't take a lot of skill to sail a boat - infact you can teach someone to sail in an afternoon - but it takes a lot longer to get them any good at achieving any sort of efficiency - and many never learn that skill.

Personally I don't find PWC's attractive - although sometimes it would be handy to have one (or a small rib) - but then I like Jazz music which I know others cannot stand ...
 
It doesn't matter whether people like them or loath them. They just need to be treated like everyone else and held accountable when they flout the rules. I saw one smash his hull when trying to jump over an awash fence post in the Severn Estuary. That was satisfying as I personaly loath them.
 
steve350 said:
It doesn't matter whether people like them or loath them. They just need to be treated like everyone else and held accountable when they flout the rules. I saw one smash his hull when trying to jump over an awash fence post in the Severn Estuary. That was satisfying as I personaly loath them.
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Whether you like them or loathe them, it's a bit unhealthy to take pleasure in seeing people or property get damaged, isn't it??

I'm with fireball on this - sensible post. Well said
 
I had gone out to spend a day fishing, casting from the shore. After listening to the sound of the PWC for several hours I wasn't too disappointed when he pranged his vessel. Perhaps it would have been more fitting had I collapsed on the ground in a flood of tears.
The main point of my earlier post is that operators of PWC's should be held accountable for their actions.
 
steve350 said:
The main point of my earlier post is that operators of PWC's should be held accountable for their actions.
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With respect, that's not at all the way that it reads and frankly if the action that he needs to be held accountable for is creating some noise that disturbed your fishing ... live and let live.

steve350 said:
Perhaps it would have been more fitting had I collapsed on the ground in a flood of tears..
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I don't think that comments like this help your case very much
 
I've actually been the receiver of a smash from a PWC trying to do a hard turn to create a wave over my boat ... he left it just a might too late and broadsided me while wife and I were handing the mainsail ... outside Cowes Hbr.
I have also had excellent time with PWC people on the river near my house ... in fact while out on the boat - I 'rescued' one on the 'ringo' that broke free.

Basically I've experienced both sides of the coin with them. The one thing that strikes home about them - being small, fast, motorbike like in riding - they will appeal to people to jump on and roar away irrespective of where they are. It's the design and style of the machine. Pottering about as some advocate ... not btalking about sensible speed reduction through moorings etc. - but some imply they should keep throttles closed at all times ! is never going to happen. They are designed as speed, fun machines easily launched, recovered. It's the nature of the beast.

Do I like them ? No. Would I like to have a go on one ? Yes. Would I open the throttle and whiz along ? Probably Yes. Would I own one ? No.
 
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"The main point of my earlier post is that operators of PWC's should be held accountable for their actions".
With respect, that's not at all the way that it reads and frankly if the action that he needs to be held accountable for is creating some noise that disturbed your fishing ... live and let live.

Read my initial post. You will see that I said, "they should be held accountable when they flout the rules" I fail to see any ambiguity with that remark. The kind of rules I had in mind are, speeding through moorings, operating in bathing areas and in general using dangerous speed in proximity to other people. I'm perfectly aware that they can spend an afternoon buzzing around the end of my fishing line with complete impunity. Although I would suggest to you that that could be viewed as inconsiderate.
The episode I described in my previous post suggests to me that the operator overestimated his ability and ended his day with a smashed hull. As it turned out no one was hurt. The problem arises of course when innocent people are injured or killed by these high performance craft. I imagine a comment such as "live and let live" wouldn't go down too well in those circumstances.
 
steve350 said:
The problem arises of course when innocent people are injured or killed by these high performance craft.
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Why restrict that to PWCs? As has been pointed out in several different threads on this forum, many more people die in other boating accidents and most of us regret all accidents and don't indulge ourselves in proclaiming feelings of satisfaction when people damage their boats. If you didn't mean that you feel satisfaction in witnessing accidents you should withdraw that remark. If you did mean it, you should be ashamed
 
Spain in '75

oceanfroggie said:
... and you won't beleive it ....

PWCs terrorising folk trying to access beach on tenders

What you don't see on this clip is that the CG eventually arrived and moved them. Hopefully the local Gardai may be able to use the original footage to identify and prosecute these scum. The footage was taken by somebody who had just threaded their way through this to access the beach from one of the moored vessels. They had children on board who were terrified. Other tenders from the moored vessels had similar problems. The local PWC club was in dispair at the behaviour of these yobs (not members btw) ie all tarred with same brush.

A mandatory small craft register (ie big reg no on hull) and mandatory small craft insurance could go a long way to solving all such ills.

PS: There is a good photo post on cpb about the incident.
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This happened with a hired speed boat, not a jetski, in Spain back in '75 when my children (8 and 10 years) were swamped in the dinghy by the deliberate action of the speed boat when getting abord our yacht. (tourists?) My wife went ashore and explained to the Spanish owner that her husband had a gun and would shoot the next seedboat to come that close! This seemed to work as we were not bothered again.
 
Doghousekeeper said:
Why restrict that to PWCs? As has been pointed out in several different threads on this forum, many more people die in other boating accidents and most of us regret all accidents and don't indulge ourselves in proclaiming feelings of satisfaction when people damage their boats. If you didn't mean that you feel satisfaction in witnessing accidents you should withdraw that remark. If you did mean it, you should be ashamed
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I have addressed PWC's as this is a thread about PWC's. Look at the OP as a reminder. As far as feeling satisfaction goes then yes I admit it, when the jetskier left the water I felt satisfied. Satisfied that I was no longer subject to such inane behaviour.
I've replied to your posts several times now and on each occasion you've failed to respond to the points I've made. Rather you've concentrated on trying to undermine my character. This really is too tedious. No doubt you'll agree.
 
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