Youngest solo Atlantic crossing
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clyst
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Mmmmm thanks for that . Makes interesting reading . Personally I still can't see it as an "off shore" yacht
Mmmmm thanks for that . Makes interesting reading . Personally I still can't see it as an "off shore" yacht
Captain Haddock
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I was wondering what happened to this stunt.
This gets a resounding Hmmmm from me, no way would I go in that boat and no way would I be willing to put my sons life at risk. These are not Contessa 32s these are trailer sailers imported by his Dad.
At 14 he's a child and he'll do anything his Dad asks him of course he's keen.
They could have sailed round Britain at least they would have a port to go to or rescue services on hand should it all go wrong. At the very least it trials the boats instead of a couple of Cherbourg cheese runs.
This is foolhardy... bollocks to all that spirit of adventure, Sir Edward Hillary grit and all that, that's great for an adult. This is a kid by himself and a Father who IMO is being quite irresponsible in a boat I'd think twice about using as a tender.
It's madness, I just hope they have good weather and they cross safely.
I wonder what the kids mother thinks about all this, I bet she'll be worried sick.
I was wondering what happened to this stunt.
This gets a resounding Hmmmm from me, no way would I go in that boat and no way would I be willing to put my sons life at risk. These are not Contessa 32s these are trailer sailers imported by his Dad.
At 14 he's a child and he'll do anything his Dad asks him of course he's keen.
They could have sailed round Britain at least they would have a port to go to or rescue services on hand should it all go wrong. At the very least it trials the boats instead of a couple of Cherbourg cheese runs.
This is foolhardy... bollocks to all that spirit of adventure, Sir Edward Hillary grit and all that, that's great for an adult. This is a kid by himself and a Father who IMO is being quite irresponsible in a boat I'd think twice about using as a tender.
It's madness, I just hope they have good weather and they cross safely.
I wonder what the kids mother thinks about all this, I bet she'll be worried sick.
tcm
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er well i wdn't be that far against it. Warmer water is safer in my book than 4 degrees around the uk, and absence of land in an ocean is also safer. Also disagree that 14 yearold can be pushed into doing stuff they realy don't want to do. There's no particlaur reason why anyone with moderate intelligence and strength to get the sails up could do it, so i reckon under age 9 would begin to get iffy - if dad is in the next boat behind and they are nuts for saling which i imagine is the case....
er well i wdn't be that far against it. Warmer water is safer in my book than 4 degrees around the uk, and absence of land in an ocean is also safer. Also disagree that 14 yearold can be pushed into doing stuff they realy don't want to do. There's no particlaur reason why anyone with moderate intelligence and strength to get the sails up could do it, so i reckon under age 9 would begin to get iffy - if dad is in the next boat behind and they are nuts for saling which i imagine is the case....
Lakesailor
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As Capn Haddock says his dad's address is
Peter Perham
Managing Director
Tide Marine Ltd
67 Oakroyd Avenue
Potters Bar
Hertfordshire
EN6 2EN
So he could have an interest in such history making.
Of course they could do what all the adventure training courses do up here and lash the two boats together with fence posts. Would that be a Tide 56?
As Capn Haddock says his dad's address is
Peter Perham
Managing Director
Tide Marine Ltd
67 Oakroyd Avenue
Potters Bar
Hertfordshire
EN6 2EN
So he could have an interest in such history making.
Of course they could do what all the adventure training courses do up here and lash the two boats together with fence posts. Would that be a Tide 56?
Captain Haddock
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Pushed is quite strong I don't think he was pushed more persuaded/suggested even insinuated as to what can be done. e.g
Father: "ere son look at this 16 year old lad crossing the atlantic". "I reckon you could do that easy boy?"
Boy:....
Father: "Course you can, I know lets do it in this boat I'm importing...."
Mother: "But"
Father:"Shat it dahling, now where's me Deadcalm video"
Ok, I know it sounds Eastenders in the last two lines but you get my drift /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
If they are nuts for sailing then great however, IMO a responsible father would temper the enthusiasm and not take risks with his sons life.
If it was just about the crossing of the Atlantic father & son nuts about sailing then why not do it in something proven first? Get a feel for what an ocean crossing is about then attempt it.
If it was all about the boats then why not get a couple of seasoned yachties who are crazy enough (Read Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon crazy) to do it?
Nope, this is about a naive misguided marketing attempt. Risking life for marketing $$$ and exposure, it isn't the spirit of adventure it's foolhardy and this stunt just doesn't work for me no matter what I angle I look at it from.
Like I said I just hope things don't go wrong, I hope their boats don't fail them or break apart and I just hope the weather holds for them.
Pushed is quite strong I don't think he was pushed more persuaded/suggested even insinuated as to what can be done. e.g
Father: "ere son look at this 16 year old lad crossing the atlantic". "I reckon you could do that easy boy?"
Boy:....
Father: "Course you can, I know lets do it in this boat I'm importing...."
Mother: "But"
Father:"Shat it dahling, now where's me Deadcalm video"
Ok, I know it sounds Eastenders in the last two lines but you get my drift /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
If they are nuts for sailing then great however, IMO a responsible father would temper the enthusiasm and not take risks with his sons life.
If it was just about the crossing of the Atlantic father & son nuts about sailing then why not do it in something proven first? Get a feel for what an ocean crossing is about then attempt it.
If it was all about the boats then why not get a couple of seasoned yachties who are crazy enough (Read Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon crazy) to do it?
Nope, this is about a naive misguided marketing attempt. Risking life for marketing $$$ and exposure, it isn't the spirit of adventure it's foolhardy and this stunt just doesn't work for me no matter what I angle I look at it from.
Like I said I just hope things don't go wrong, I hope their boats don't fail them or break apart and I just hope the weather holds for them.
Neddie_Seagoon
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My Gibsea 84 - Absolute is up for sale
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You won't be replacing your 27' lifting keel Gib'Sea with a 28' lifting keel Tide then /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I can't comment on the foolhardiness or otherwise of this venture, I don't have the experience. My only observation is that when I was young (doing my first proper job in the UK), I worked with a bloke whose son was sailing around the world in an 18'er. I knew nothing about sailing so I didn't understand just how stupid this son was! (or why his dad was perpetually anxious about him). We've all heard of Shane now. A shiny new 28' upgraded to RCD 'A' sounds very tame by comparison (even if it does look like something out of a jelly mould).
Also, knowing kids I wouldn't be suprised if this venture was the idea of the son not the father, at that age none of us knew much fear!
Anyway, I wish them well, whatever the motivation it seems preferable that they get to the other side. I think they may have set off, looking at the position tracker on the website they seem to have left Gib and are currently doing 2 knots up the Spanish coast.
Steve
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My Gibsea 84 - Absolute is up for sale
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You won't be replacing your 27' lifting keel Gib'Sea with a 28' lifting keel Tide then /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I can't comment on the foolhardiness or otherwise of this venture, I don't have the experience. My only observation is that when I was young (doing my first proper job in the UK), I worked with a bloke whose son was sailing around the world in an 18'er. I knew nothing about sailing so I didn't understand just how stupid this son was! (or why his dad was perpetually anxious about him). We've all heard of Shane now. A shiny new 28' upgraded to RCD 'A' sounds very tame by comparison (even if it does look like something out of a jelly mould).
Also, knowing kids I wouldn't be suprised if this venture was the idea of the son not the father, at that age none of us knew much fear!
Anyway, I wish them well, whatever the motivation it seems preferable that they get to the other side. I think they may have set off, looking at the position tracker on the website they seem to have left Gib and are currently doing 2 knots up the Spanish coast.
Steve
clyst
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I think you have got it right Capt'n . Its a pity someone from the company doesn't come here and explain how it is .
I think you have got it right Capt'n . Its a pity someone from the company doesn't come here and explain how it is .
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Young man (lad, boy) set sail with his dad at 1300 yesterday 18th November and the dots on GoogleEarth are now on the move south, back along the Spanish coast in a Force 3 towards the African coast.
Seems to me it is not technically a 'solo' crossing as is dad will be with him all the way and in full VHF radio contact.
The Atlantic weather can be seen at:
http://www.weather.com/maps/maptype/satelliteworld/atlanticoceansatellite_large_animated.html
I wish him (them) well.
Seems to me it is not technically a 'solo' crossing as is dad will be with him all the way and in full VHF radio contact.
The Atlantic weather can be seen at:
http://www.weather.com/maps/maptype/satelliteworld/atlanticoceansatellite_large_animated.html
I wish him (them) well.
Danny_Labrador
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Why would you "up" the Spanish coastand then go "down" the Spanish coast if you are about to cross the Atlantic ?
Lakesailor
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If they set off from Gibraltar they'll need to "Go West Young Man" along the coast.
dk
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The Tide 28 is not a trailer sailer - it's an offshore (RCD Cat B) lifting keel boat that is trailerable. The keel locks down into place with very large bolts - it is only raised to put it on a trailer at the end of the season. I sailed one two weeks ago - it sails very well actually and the hull is designed along the lines of a racing yacht. It doesn't plane like the M26 and has no chines to 'lift' it out of the water. It doesn't have water ballast like the M26, instead it has a thumping great lead bulb at the foot of the keel. I'm not saying it'd be my choice of yacht to cross the pond, but it's a lot better than many that have successfully made the crossing.
Incidentily, I have no commercial connections with the boat or the event.
Incidentily, I have no commercial connections with the boat or the event.
Signed Out
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The bow looks to have very little volume, and the rig seems quite far forward, so I wonder if they'll have any tendency to pitch (and hopefully not pole); could be a wet journey in that case.
Stormboards on the windows?
Extra protection across that open stern?
Good luck.
Jem.
Stormboards on the windows?
Extra protection across that open stern?
Good luck.
Jem.
graham
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Seems to me it is not technically a 'solo' crossing as is dad will be with him all the way and in full VHF radio contact.
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I dont agree with that statement. Anything other than flatcalm they wont be able to transfer from one boat to the other. OK they can talk on the VHF but thats about it.
I have doubts about the reasons for this adventure but now they are underway wish them all the best. God willing that they are successfull i think it counts most definitely as a singlehanded crossing.
Seems to me it is not technically a 'solo' crossing as is dad will be with him all the way and in full VHF radio contact.
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I dont agree with that statement. Anything other than flatcalm they wont be able to transfer from one boat to the other. OK they can talk on the VHF but thats about it.
I have doubts about the reasons for this adventure but now they are underway wish them all the best. God willing that they are successfull i think it counts most definitely as a singlehanded crossing.
Goldie
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Sorry, I didn't really make myself clear. When I said I'd met him, I meant Ian Clover who sailed the Co 32 across. I don't know what mods have been made to the Tideways - it would be very interesting to find out. Like everyone else I wish them a safe crossing, but it wouldn't be my choice of boat.....
Sorry, I didn't really make myself clear. When I said I'd met him, I meant Ian Clover who sailed the Co 32 across. I don't know what mods have been made to the Tideways - it would be very interesting to find out. Like everyone else I wish them a safe crossing, but it wouldn't be my choice of boat.....
Woodlouse
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Seems they've set off to the west indies now after seeming to spend yesterday drifting up and down the spanish coast. Wonder what that was all about.
Seems they've set off to the west indies now after seeming to spend yesterday drifting up and down the spanish coast. Wonder what that was all about.
Sailfree
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At 14 he's a child and he'll do anything his Dad asks him of course he's keen.
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Ask him to do his homework then!!!
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At 14 he's a child and he'll do anything his Dad asks him of course he's keen.
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Ask him to do his homework then!!!
tome
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Some problems with the electrics on dads boat which had them temp heading towards Cadiz
However, it's not looking too good at the moment. There was mention of dads boat having pulled a pintle fastening yesterday, and it looks like he's now a serious steering problem, see position and zoom in to see the erratic course
Some problems with the electrics on dads boat which had them temp heading towards Cadiz
However, it's not looking too good at the moment. There was mention of dads boat having pulled a pintle fastening yesterday, and it looks like he's now a serious steering problem, see position and zoom in to see the erratic course
Lakesailor
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Ah, see I only mentioned checking my pintles the other day.
Can't be too carefull.
Ah, see I only mentioned checking my pintles the other day.
Can't be too carefull.
tugboat
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We fellas are supposed to check our pintles on a regular basis, I believe! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
We fellas are supposed to check our pintles on a regular basis, I believe! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
