YM - Where secondhand is new

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YM runs a regular feature on 'Buying second hand'. This month it featured a lucky couple upgrading their existing boat to take in two sets of diving gear and a saloon view of more than the sky. The three boats they considered, and took a Surveyor along to check out, were all jolly nice but there was a bit of a problem (unless I missed something) - all of them were brand spanking new. Is it a bit like buying pre-registered cars (technically used and cheaper but actually new) or just an example of stretching the secondhand editorial brief a bit too far so that advertising boat manufacturers can get a bit more exposure? I quite liked the idea of a feature about a Surveyor and a punter pouring over a used boat since it shows you what can go wrong and what to look out for. Seems the model has changed a bit now..

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what are you moaning about? i'm running out to upgrade my boat to a half million quid monster as we we speak........can you not afford one too?

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Can't decide which one to go for so I think I'll setlle for one of each of the following:

1, racing dinghy - for thrashing about for the day and crossing harbour entrances ad nauseam

2, Monster motor launch - for parties in the marina and calling up on channel 16 when the icemaker stops working.

3, A very ugly home built sail boat to park next to lots of very flash yots

4, A deck saloon boat so that I don't get wet when it's raining

5, A 300metre tanker so that any dispute about rights of way are a bit of a technicality really. Useful for revenge tactics against IOW ferry too.

6, A sort of 60ft+ go anywhere beautiful sail boat, for doing just that.

7, Oh and a nice safe and comfy Bav 40.

One of the above I have already, which is a start I suppose.



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I tend to "speed read" many articles these days, and didn't even realise these were new boats. Do we now need to employ a surveyor to check out new boats before we buy or am I too missing the point here? I had better take an AA engineer along with me to check over my new car when it arrives in January!!

I have to say I thought the latest issue of YM was the worst I can remember - they seem to have started the old trick of "double spacing" the news pages to pad them out. Perhaps it was just a one off.

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Lisaten matey, I park my tanker wherever I bliimin well want!

Re your new car delivery in January. You must understand that when it arrives it will not be new, it might not be used as such, but new is a relative term.

Suggest you contact What Car? so that they can run a feature on it in their second hand focus.

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Warning

You can argue with Nicho about his choice of boat, but not about his choice of car. Not now that he doesn't automatically have to have a Vauxhall. Even if his Vauxhalls used to be heavily breathed on by his tame race-tuning crew.

He's the only person ever to have driven an Astra so fast past a speed camera that by the time the microelectronics decided he was speeding and deserved to have his portrait taken, he was already in the next parish.

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Re: Warning

Yeh but given Nicho tendancy for attracting the worst weather nature can throw at him, I would suggest something of an off-roader. Definitely not an open top jobbie. A tank praps?

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I'm sure I've read advice somewhere (and not in AA News...) advising an inspection, even for a new car. Given that the car may have been standing in a field for a few months, and although quality control and manufacturing standards are much better than they used to be, it's probably not as stupid a suggestion as it sounds.

In the unlikely event that I ever buy a new boat, I would certainly have it surveyed - if only to ensure that I had a comprehensive snagging list from an independent source, to harrass the manufacturers or agents with.

I guess the purpose of the series of articles is to give a cross section of scenarios. To be fair, we've already had a bit of variety. But I, too, will be rushing out today to place my order for an agreeable £1/2m yacht toute de suite.......

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Re: Warning

Everybody knows thats impossible. They proved it on Top Gear. The only thing fast enough to defeat a speed camera is a White AstraMax Van driven by a 20 year old plumber.

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Re: Warning

This speeding thing is getting a bit of a bore. I've just returned from Spain (yes, testing 2004 Vauxhall race cars), and I was slapped a 388 Euro (yes 388!) on the spot fine for doing 112 kph in a 60 kph area!! It wasn't even signed, on an unclassified road, with no houses, trees, bushes, bugger all, except a cross roads that you could see both ways for at least two miles - evidently all such junctions are 60 limited, and I should have known evidently. There was some good news, I got a 30% discount for paying cash!! The radar was in a battered old van parked at the side of the road, looked like a farmers vehicle, and the actual place they stopped me was 1 mile further up the road, so there was no sighting of the officers of the law to warn me (and various others that were nicked at the same time) So, it's not just in the UK that the speed cops are sneaky then!!

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Re: Speeding Vauxhalls

This reminds me of a friend in university times. He had a mini-moke which he occasionnally would rally. It was terribly slow and no adhesion at all, made even worse when he built a metal hard top for it - all in military green. Being in N Ireland at the time, he thought it lacked a little bit of authenticity so he went out into the country and put a a few rifle shot holes in it!

Anyway one day he was actually stopped by a speed cop and asked if he knew what speed he had been doing.

"No" he replied.

"You were doing 72 mph" said the policeman.

Sucking in his breath my friend asked " Could I have that in writing please...? "

John

PS He later became Chairman of the Ulster Society of Chartered Accountants.



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I agree this series is beginning to leave a sour taste. Last month they featured an industry pro and one-time main agent for a French yacht manufacturer.

The 'Buying second hand' feature seemed such a good idea but now it has descended into a scam to provide a stimulating day out for the reporter assigned.

Maybe they should put the woman back in charge.


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Re: Warning its a Vauxhall.

just about the worst range of cars available from any major manufacturer today?.
Esp the Vectra.............../forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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