YM Summer issue – GGR Storm Tactics - myth-busters?

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Excellent article in the “Summer” issue of YM on “Storm Tactics from the Golden Globe Race”. Worth a read.

This race had a high attrition rate, much more than other races such as the Vendee Globe (which admittedly is in longer boats, but much lighter and built to minimum weight). Quite a number of boats were capsized and subsequently lost rigs and/or needed to be abandoned. So storm tactics which worked and didn’t makes interesting reading.

Many boats attempted towing ropes or warps to slow down in bad storms, including a number of the boats which were abandoned. On the other hand, the first two successful finishers seemed to have different views.
• Jean-Luc van den Heede (winner and most experienced sailor with 5 previous solo circumnavigations) was quoted as “used no warps or drogue in the race, instead favouring Bernard Moitessier’s philosophy of going as fast as possible in heavy weather, and running with the breaking waves at a shallow angle.”
• Mark Slats (second finisher with one previous solo circumnavigation) was quoted as “Caught in the same storm which dismasted Gregor McGuckin and Abhilash Tomy, Slats who was East of them had already experienced multiple knockdowns while trailing warps. <He> decided that sailing at ‘maximum power’, at the same direction as the waves was the best storm tactic.”

Merfyn Owen, very experienced skipper (including BT Challenge & IMOCA 60s) and yacht designer, supported this view saying “if you are sailing downwind with significant waves, maintaining as much speed as feasible is your best way of managing the situation” and then expanded more in explaining this.

Merfyn Owen also raised the subject of righting moments, and his view of misperceptions about what makes a stable boat. “One of the reasons for the pervading sense that designs such as those used in the GGR are more stable is a misreading of the angle of vanishing stability curves. …… People might point to that and say the old boat is much more stable, as it doesn’t have a vanishing angle until 145 degrees, so it is a much safer boat. However, for a larger or modern yacht, especially with a deep keel and bulb, the righting moment – the top peak of the curve – is quite a lot higher and the area under that curve is greater. It is that area under the curve that is important because it is directly equivalent to the energy required by a wave to roll the boat.”

So based upon this quoted GGR experience, if heading into the Southern Ocean without the arbitrary constraints of the GGR it would perhaps suggest for me:
• Having a boat that can continue to be sailed fast downwind safely (perhaps also using best gyro autopilot rather than wind vane, to avoid stalling with lower wind speeds in the trough of a big wave)
• A boat with a high area under the AVS curve – so wider and deeper bulb keel may be advantages, as well as pure length
• Continuing to sail actively downwind rather than towing warps/ropes
But most importantly also
• Getting weather routing and using the speed to help avoid the worst of the storms

Certainly food for through

PS PLEASE READ THE FULL ARTICLE AND IT’S CONSIDERED INPUTS/EVIDENCE from 6 of the GGR competitors, Merfyn Owen and GGR organiser before leaping to opinions
 
So based upon this quoted GGR experience, if heading into the Southern Ocean without the arbitrary constraints of the GGR it would perhaps suggest for me:..........

.....Not to think of GGR experience as being typical of small boats sailing the southern ocean but pay attention to the others down there as well using modern materials and technology....

Jeanne Socrates https://www.svnereida.com/blog/, Randall Reeves - http://figure8voyage.com/blog/ , Susanne Huber-Curphy - https://oceancruisingclub.org/newsitem/635/Susanne-Huber-Curphy-making-landfall-in-Tasmania

All of whom use a jordan series drogue in storm conditions. As did Susie Goddall up until hers broke. Dyneema bridle legs have been available for a little while which very likely would have been fine.

From following their blogs, southern ocean storms move fast, you might get away from the worst a little bit sometimes but you're gonna get hammered if you go down there.

If there's anything to be learned from the GGR it's don't do it like they did! :)
 
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Two out of the three quoted above... Socrates and Reeves... had their self-steerers destroyed by their JSDs.... he managed to fix his Monitor.

I carry a drogue... a Seabrake.. but have never used it or felt the need to use it.

I don't have the miles in the south that any of them have had so maybe I am just lucky. I have only done 2 x 44 day passages NZ-Pto Montt in the mid 40's plus a number of passages in the deep South Atlantic. I'm a great believer that - like Jean-Luc you are better off keeping your boat moving. Wave trains in front of weather systems aren't neat and tidy down there and stopping your boat in heavy wx is just sitting waiting for a punch in the side of the head.
Don't ask me how I know that but it cost me my aux rudder last time and that was just down to being under canvased at dawn... oh I just told you... was thinking of setting a bit more sail while having my porridge... but then maybe it would have made no difference at all... who knows...

In the Sopac you get plenty of notice of weather coming through .. Dumas called it a very honest ocean .. or words to that effect.

Under the lee of Patagonia is a far nastier place where you have little chance to step aside from nasty stuff... and its a place I plan to avoid in future. Strangely no-one in the GGR seemed to have any trouble in that area...
 
Two out of the three quoted above... Socrates and Reeves... had their self-steerers destroyed by their JSDs.... he managed to fix his Monitor..

Not the only issue yet they still want to have on onboard. Susanne Huber-Curphy said not having a working JSD was the main reason for not carrying on after Tasmania. With respect as you've been closer than I, but if you've never felt the need to deploy a drogue then it seems unlikely you've been in the survival conditions these sailors have. There seems little doubt amongst those that have spent time deep down there. Ironbark has a write up on Morgans Cloud behind a paywall..
https://www.morganscloud.com/2017/05/19/battle-testing-a-jordan-designed-series-drogue/
"It was not until I was south of 40°S and in the Southern Ocean that I first deployed the drogue."

http://iron-bark.blogspot.com/
Another case of damage to a wind vane. This obviously needs some thought to prevent. But still, from those that have been right down there in it still seems to remain the weapon of choice despite the difficulties. Your preference of running off may well work further north but from the reports further south it seems not very popular.
 
Excellent article in the “Summer” issue of YM on “Storm Tactics from the Golden Globe Race”. Worth a read.

This race had a high attrition rate, much more than other races such as the Vendee Globe (which admittedly is in longer boats, but much lighter and built to minimum weight). Quite a number of boats were capsized and subsequently lost rigs and/or needed to be abandoned. So storm tactics which worked and didn’t makes interesting reading.

Many boats attempted towing ropes or warps to slow down in bad storms, including a number of the boats which were abandoned. On the other hand, the first two successful finishers seemed to have different views.
• Jean-Luc van den Heede (winner and most experienced sailor with 5 previous solo circumnavigations) was quoted as “used no warps or drogue in the race, instead favouring Bernard Moitessier’s philosophy of going as fast as possible in heavy weather, and running with the breaking waves at a shallow angle.”
• Mark Slats (second finisher with one previous solo circumnavigation) was quoted as “Caught in the same storm which dismasted Gregor McGuckin and Abhilash Tomy, Slats who was East of them had already experienced multiple knockdowns while trailing warps. <He> decided that sailing at ‘maximum power’, at the same direction as the waves was the best storm tactic.”

Merfyn Owen, very experienced skipper (including BT Challenge & IMOCA 60s) and yacht designer, supported this view saying “if you are sailing downwind with significant waves, maintaining as much speed as feasible is your best way of managing the situation” and then expanded more in explaining this.

Merfyn Owen also raised the subject of righting moments, and his view of misperceptions about what makes a stable boat. “One of the reasons for the pervading sense that designs such as those used in the GGR are more stable is a misreading of the angle of vanishing stability curves. …… People might point to that and say the old boat is much more stable, as it doesn’t have a vanishing angle until 145 degrees, so it is a much safer boat. However, for a larger or modern yacht, especially with a deep keel and bulb, the righting moment – the top peak of the curve – is quite a lot higher and the area under that curve is greater. It is that area under the curve that is important because it is directly equivalent to the energy required by a wave to roll the boat.”

So based upon this quoted GGR experience, if heading into the Southern Ocean without the arbitrary constraints of the GGR it would perhaps suggest for me:
• Having a boat that can continue to be sailed fast downwind safely (perhaps also using best gyro autopilot rather than wind vane, to avoid stalling with lower wind speeds in the trough of a big wave)
• A boat with a high area under the AVS curve – so wider and deeper bulb keel may be advantages, as well as pure length
• Continuing to sail actively downwind rather than towing warps/ropes
But most importantly also
• Getting weather routing and using the speed to help avoid the worst of the storms

Certainly food for through

PS PLEASE READ THE FULL ARTICLE AND IT’S CONSIDERED INPUTS/EVIDENCE from 6 of the GGR competitors, Merfyn Owen and GGR organiser before leaping to opinions

Obviously, the faster you go, the less 'apparent wind', so less rig stress, makes sense to me.
Those race boats are not your conventional 'long keel plodder', so will have different tactics.
 
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Not the only issue yet they still want to have on onboard. Susanne Huber-Curphy said not having a working JSD was the main reason for not carrying on after Tasmania. With respect as you've been closer than I, but if you've never felt the need to deploy a drogue then it seems unlikely you've been in the survival conditions these sailors have. There seems little doubt amongst those that have spent time deep down there. Ironbark has a write up on Morgans Cloud behind a paywall..
https://www.morganscloud.com/2017/05/19/battle-testing-a-jordan-designed-series-drogue/
"It was not until I was south of 40°S and in the Southern Ocean that I first deployed the drogue."

http://iron-bark.blogspot.com/
Another case of damage to a wind vane. This obviously needs some thought to prevent. But still, from those that have been right down there in it still seems to remain the weapon of choice despite the difficulties. Your preference of running off may well work further north but from the reports further south it seems not very popular.

Maybe I just have a greater tolerance for pain...... though that would surprise me..... I recall living in 'interesting times' on occasion... but never considered it 'survival'

We spent all our time south of 40... first crossing we went down almost to 50*.... I considered that by far enough and of little benefit by any measure ... second crossing rarely below 45... maybe I'm doing it wrong...

In this day and age intelligent routing makes life more pleasant but you can't always make that work.

In all these recent events it seems that 360s or extreme knockdowns were the order of the day.... not pitchpoles which seem rather out of vogue these days.... I have never had any fear of the latter and only one brush with a friend of the former.

My observation - in recent times - would be that JSDs may stop your boat but they don't stop you getting slammed/suffering an extreme knock down/or getting punched in the side of the head.....

Just my observation.

I have an Ed Dubios design which I think embodies moderation in all things. I have never run under bare poles -in the ocean - but will run my smallest storm jib. Without that you lose tracking ability and then things can turn to poo.
 
Over the years, a few people have made the point that keeping the boat moving forwards is much better for the rudders than allowing waves to hit them the wrong way. I would imagine this holds true with self-steering servo rudders too?
 
Obviously, the faster you go, the less 'apparent wind', so less rig stress, makes sense to me.
Those race boats are not your conventional 'long keel plodder', so will have different tactics.

If you read the article, it was the older slower cruising boats of the GGR that were giving their views. The extremely experienced Rustler 36 skipper who successfully completed (and was first home) was quoted as preferring to go fast and free in big waves, whereas similar boats that used warps were wiped out. Ditto the next successful finisher stopped towing warps as felt better.
 
I would assume so. Wasn't the the '79 Fastnet and the Sydney/Hobart where some of the boats went for all out speed to keep control of the boat and reduce the speed difference between them and the waves. This was with full crew but with a good autopilot you might be able to crank up the gears and get the same result.

I for one want a big wide ass for stability downwind and twin rudders - and maybe redundant autopilots just to be sure.

Over the years, a few people have made the point that keeping the boat moving forwards is much better for the rudders than allowing waves to hit them the wrong way. I would imagine this holds true with self-steering servo rudders too?
 
I'm all in favour of keeping power on and speed up, as borne out by my own small experiences at Portland Race; the snag is crew power, a singlehander can only last so long while a Volvo job with a crew of Gorillas could sail to Mars...
 
I would assume so. Wasn't the the '79 Fastnet and the Sydney/Hobart where some of the boats went for all out speed to keep control of the boat and reduce the speed difference between them and the waves. This was with full crew but with a good autopilot you might be able to crank up the gears and get the same result.

I for one want a big wide ass for stability downwind and twin rudders - and maybe redundant autopilots just to be sure.

"Speed difference between them and the waves"?

How fast were these surface waves moving then?
 
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