YM question - You're in your open 60, 1k miles from land.....

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I'd take 'poor' out of the equation. Freeview is free, and boxes can cost under £20 now.

You asked on PBO for a copy and you were answered with someone that said they could get one to you.
 
Re: YM question - You\'re in your open 60, 1k miles from land.....

Well the question was wide open to the responses it got. It should have said straight on "what would you have done in Mike Goldings situation." Would have made it harder for the funny people then.
 
Re: YM question - You\'re in your open 60, 1k miles from land.....

oh really?? great, off to check that now then!
Copies will be available for YM Forum users at a fantastic price of £9.99
 
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Cant really see what couldve be done differently.... Alex v lucky that Mike in a reachable distance......Mike couldnt've said no even though 1% of him probably wanted to... Alex lucky to get on Mikes boat after 4 tries in sub zero seas... both of them lucky to limp home. It would suggest that in a sutation with not many options open to them, the fact that they survived means they did all the right things!
 
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Well there arent any ships where Alex was, too far for helecopters, so... What dyou mean 'different' - apart from not going in the 1st place!!
 
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In my opinion, having watched the tv programme and what with the sheer number of things that went wrong before and during the rescue very little could have been done differently.

One thing I did notice though in the programme is that when Golding first for a line to Thompson, he (Thompson) failed to tie it to the liferaft and instead held onto it, which ended up damaging his hand when Ecover surged and the rope went tight.

However, not knowing the full facts such as if there was actually a suitable strong point in the raft, it's difficult to be critical, and I'd assume that he knew what he was doing even if it did go wrong.
 
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see , I didn't know that , and I'd have held rather than tie off , I would have thought that would be the best thing to do
 
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did you not notice the screaming and his documentary comment about the line being wrapped around his wrist, even though it's a novice mistake? I bet it's one he won't make again
 
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First step is to watch it then, you'll learn more from the attempts to get him onboard than you will ever from discussing it without viewing it.
 
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see the threads about recording it and if you can get a copy. I started recording but shoved in a nearly full disk by mistake.
 
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To answer the question, I would probably have done exactly what Mike Golding did, obviously modified for the particular circumstances and conditions.

I would certainly have considered putting myself in a position to drift to the liferaft with it in my lee. Having said that... in the circumstances, with big waves, this may have been very dangerous, and that is what Mike Golding seemed to think.

If this was my plan, I would have made it abundantly clear to Alex that there was a danger involved, and he would have to be very fast in grabbing a rail and getting aboard... which I think is what kind of actually happened as a last resort. If it was looking dangerous on the approach, I might have pulled out.

I also recall Alex, when he got the rope, saying, "what do I do now?".... so it's fairly clear that no matter how well trained, or how much experience you have, it's not until you get in the situation that you will know how you might act.

Another thing I might have considered would be to trail a line astern, and try and manouevre it into the path of the liferaft.... once caught, I would want Alex to tie on, (to where the painter is attached if nowhere else available), put the boat in slow ahead, and winch him to the stern where, hopefully, it would be fairly straightforward to get aboard.

I'm assuming that it was not an option to go alongside Hugo Boss and have Alex step aboard, (very quickly).

How's that?
 
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Well of course the obvious thing to have done wouldve been to wait for some decent flotsam to float past, maybe something like a 'dangerous cargo' container that mightve come off a sunken ship somewhere, and then to fashion a makeshift yacht from that. You never know, after a few days of sailing that, he might have even passed Robin K-J
 
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I usually send 'em out free to folks - but didn't manage to record this one, due to err.... pressing matters down the pub meaning I forgot to record it /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Rick
 
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It was getting the line to the liferaft that was the tricky bit and Mike's engine problems didn't help matters.

The only thing that occurred to me (after the programme) was that an alternative manouvre would have been to trail a lifeline (with a float on the end) from the stern of Ecover and motor round in an arc/circle around the liferaft, which would gradually pull the line in to the raft in a tightening spiral. This would not have needed the constant attention to the engine down below (throttles and gear lever not working, see?) and would not have had the uncertainties of throwing a line in dodgy sea.

However, when I thought about it again, there is a possibility the line could tangle round the prop, especially if the sea state was rough, which would have been a disaster. I am an inexperienced amateur whereas Mike Golding is massively capable and experienced and I would not presume to judge his decisions and actions. I take it as a given that he made the right choices since he did, after all, save Alex and subsequently his own life and boat after his rig failure.

Cheers

Neil
 
Re: YM question - You\'re in your open 60, 1k miles from land.....

Sail to within 100metres, drop the sails, deploy the sea anchor (drogue) and get him to paddle over to you in his rubber dingy thingy, pat on the back and sail home without the engine.

MV Tongue in Cheek!
 
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