Yellow Fishermans/Trawlermans Oilies/Oilskins/Waterproofs

Like all percentage based figures it can be misleading. My little Achilles 24 cost £2500 and my Mustos about £650. It was just used to illustrate the value I attach to staying dry, and therefore warm, over a long period on my own in a small boat. If I had a big heater down below I would, without a doubt, use £150 worth of fisherman's oilies. I guess the answer to your original question could, therefore, be that it depends on application as to which is best.
Nicki
 
Posted my last before I read your last, but yes your figures are correct. I take the view that cold is cold and wet is wet irrespective of boat size. For anything longer than a day sail, cold and wet are, at best very unpleasant, and at worst a significant hazard. I am not a rich man as you can tell by my boat, but I find the investment in foulies to be worthwhile. There have been many occasions when I have been thankful for the fact that I was warm and dry, and thus better able to deal with discomfort, tiredness induced hallucination and decision making. Maybe it's me, but I just hate the cold, and single-handing a small boat with hanked on head sails can produce prodigious levels of sweat which then make me cold.
By the way, good thread CapBob, and as you can no doubt detect, one close to my heart.
Nicki
 
"annually purchasing"

What the hell are you doing with them?

clearly the same as me! I have had not much luck with breathables, same thing, leak through the fabric and at joints after a few weeks. Especially where you sit/lean on them - just forces the water through, I suppose. I tend to have been either racing or on boats with no sprayhood....
 
Wow, this old thread has come back up to the top. Hehe.

Since I started it I've bought Guy Cotten salopettes and jacket. They are as new after heavy use for a year and a bit. Sometimes used as mini tarpaulins, sometimes as cushions, sometimes as wet weather clothing.

Posted my last before I read your last, but yes your figures are correct. I take the view that cold is cold and wet is wet irrespective of boat size.

Nicki

Agree with you completely.
 
I maybe "teaching grandma to suck eggs" here, apologies if that is the case.............
What are you wearing under your goretex gear? Goretex is wasted if you tend to wear cotton or other "none technical" textiles underneath. The moisture stays in the cotton and isn't forced out through the goretex. In addition salt crystals can also block the pores in the membrane. Fabrics that "wick" the moisture are usually recommended.
Once again, apologies if I am telling you something that you already know.
 
aromas

Aromas are part and parcel of life at sea, whether from bilges, diesel or even the sea itself. Oilskins were never a problem in this regard. I wore oilskins for many years without problem and currently use them or retired climbing gear.
Oilskins such as Guy Cottens are made from relatively stiff material and are cut with a fair volume. This means that when you are moving the air within the garment gets moved around and prevents condensation build up.
Gortex is a much overrated fabric and far too expensive for what it does. Only someone with more money than sense would pay £600 for a set of waterproofs.
 
oilskins

I have worn the black oilskins that were issued to the Royal Navy in the 50's and wouldn't change . I have loads of yellow oilskins too and love the fact that you get sweaty underneath . Oilskins have a very distinct smell that some people really love . I am one of those and spend as much time as possible in my favourite gear Big Bullseye Hood Extra High Waders and oilskins and rubber gloves on top . Fit for any purpose .
 
I have worn the black oilskins that were issued to the Royal Navy in the 50's and wouldn't change . I have loads of yellow oilskins too and love the fact that you get sweaty underneath . Oilskins have a very distinct smell that some people really love . I am one of those and spend as much time as possible in my favourite gear Big Bullseye Hood Extra High Waders and oilskins and rubber gloves on top . Fit for any purpose .

I guess the school holidays have started .
 
Why do you feel that way?Not being confrontational,but I don't understand.I never had a problem with mi Gill breathables and the comfort levels that I get ,together with my Dubarry boots are beyhond anything I had experienced before.I was wearing a nonbreathable jacket ashore the other day and after a while,when I took it off,it was all wet inside from perspiration.Why would one want to live with that?

I have also been having problems with Gortex - in this case from Musto. I recently sent all mine back to Mustos as they were totally porous, and I got wet through in rain. (My 20 year old Barbour performed better).

Musto have replaced the lot, saying the fabric was faulty. I am not expecting much better from my replacements, which will be rigorously tested in the shower at home on receipt - out of stock till Feb - so presumably on ship from China.........

My last thread on this subject a month ago showed that not one of the respondees was happy with their Gortex breathable.

I wonder if PBO would run a test - under the head lines
GORETEX - Does it really work

or would their advertising dry up!!!
 
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