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dylanwinter

dylanwinter

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this will look better on a full screen

or even better on a big telly with a decent sound system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj3VKdDTy0Y

You might hear a small reference to KTL budgets in the middle - apologies for that

I am putting the Scottish adventures on hold for a while. So the Centaur is going on the market

Back to full crouching headroom and East Coast rivers for a year or two while I attempt to bring outgoings and incoming back into line

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dylanwinter said:
Back to full crouching headroom and East Coasts rivers for a year or two while I attempt to bring outgoings and incoming back into line
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Absent mobility issues, I think a boat has to be used a lot for a marina berth to be worthwhile. In an average year each row out to my boat and back on her swinging mooring saves me £400 compared to going into the adjacent marina, because I usually only take her off her mooring five times. If I was going on board twice a week the additional fiver a time to save the row would look quite reasonable.

I'm afraid that keeping your boat in an expensive marina for intermittent use at £100 in diesel per visit was never going to be much of a budget boating proposition. Why not sell your Centaur to Steve Yates in Maryport?
 
I was on a mooring most of last summer - although I was sailing every other week. For the short term I shall leave making films about scottish sailing to one of your own compatriots - see if he/she can make a better fist of it.
 
dylanwinter said:
I was on a mooring most of last summer - although I was sailing every other week. For the short term I shall leave making films about scottish sailing to one of your own compatriots - see if he/she can make a better fist of it.
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I still reckon you should try to make some sailing films commercially. Ok, the market is maybe saturated in Britain, but have you tried touting your films to Ulster TV or the NITB? Your boat is only a day or two away and I reckon it would take a whole season to do Newry to Lough Foyle in detail, so you could make a fair few short films out of that.

Another suggestion. Try completing the filming for the rest of the way around on OPBs.
 
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I still reckon you should try to make some sailing films commercially. Ok, the market is maybe saturated in Britain, but have you tried touting your films to Ulster TV or the NITB? Your boat is only a day or two away and I reckon it would take a whole season to do Newry to Lough Foyle in detail, so you could make a fair few short films out of that.

Another suggestion. Try completing the filming for the rest of the way around on OPBs.
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The reaction from local TV companies is always the same

1/ we have no money

2/ you are english

People have suggested that I sail with them on their boats as well.

When making films I am a terrible person to sail with.

I get up before dawn to get the sunrise in the right place, I sail right through until dusk because the light is best in the evening, for filming I need to sail close to the edge and that always makes other people rather nervous, I will often turn around and take a second go at filming something and my 30 camera batteries are tough on anyone's charging system. When it rains then the camera never comes out - so during storms I sit below reading a book.

So OPBs is unlikely to work.

I also hate not being in charge of the steering stick.

I am not sure what happens after I have sold the Centaur and finished editing the films that are currently in the can. Maybe I can scrape the money together to have a go at the Outer hebrides and the other scottish islands - maybe not.

My plan, long term, is to buy an old centaur with a buggered engine, cut a hole in it, install an outboard and then film it all on a 4K camera while I am wearing a yellow bikini.

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Do you need to release the money tied up in the Centaur, or is it more about avoiding ongoing running costs?
Just that if it's the latter you could almost certainly 'park' her somewhere up here for as long as you wanted at no cost- just run her up the head of a loch somewhere sheltered- strip her down, have a friendly local keep an eye on her, and come back to her in a couple of years time.

A neighbour of mine beached his tri near the bottom of my croft about three years ago, and she has been sitting happily there ever since, secured by a spiders' web of shore lines for the once a month that she floats.
 
Kelpie said:
Do you need to release the money tied up in the Centaur, or is it more about avoiding ongoing running costs?
Just that if it's the latter you could almost certainly 'park' her somewhere up here for as long as you wanted at no cost- just run her up the head of a loch somewhere sheltered- strip her down, have a friendly local keep an eye on her, and come back to her in a couple of years time.

A neighbour of mine beached his tri near the bottom of my croft about three years ago, and she has been sitting happily there ever since, secured by a spiders' web of shore lines for the once a month that she floats.
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sadly I not only need to cut my costs - I also need to "sweat the assets".

I currently have no outboard for the little trailer sailer, the electrics are shot, the keel bolt needs replacing and the trailer itself needs some money spent on it.

I do not really want to lose another wheel while travelling at 50 on the motorway. It was bloomin frightening.

I am hoping that I can find a way to get KTL back on track and make some films about the west coast of scotland. If they are to get made then I will need another old boat with full standing headroom, a reliable engine and a heating.

On the positive side the club talks are going pretty well at the moment and people seem to be prepared to pay £400 for a performance -

I used to do them for free - but then I could sell 40 DVDs to pay for my time. Now we have all stopped buying DVDs so that revenue stream has died.

The trouble with the talks is that they are quite time consuming and stop me me sailing - each one hoovers up three days. A day to prepare, a day to get there and a day to get home.

In the meantime, while I try to get the KTL project back on track, here is a nice film of a nice girl close to a soap bubble in a washing up bowl somewhere on the planet - not sure where but that is probably not important.

These videos seem to be surprisingly popular

 
On the bright side, boats are getting cheaper all the time. You must be glad you didn't fork out for a Centaur when you started your journey, it would probably have cost £12k+ to get a good one. Now you can get one for less than half that. So dropping out of the ownership game for a bit might make financial sense.

Of course you could sell a kidney, buy a Fisher 37, and move aboard lock stock and barrel. No more petrol money!
 
Kelpie said:
On the bright side, boats are getting cheaper all the time. You must be glad you didn't fork out for a Centaur when you started your journey, it would probably have cost £12k+ to get a good one. Now you can get one for less than half that. So dropping out of the ownership game for a bit might make financial sense.

Of course you could sell a kidney, buy a Fisher 37, and move aboard lock stock and barrel. No more petrol money!
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Jill says no and a good wife is more important than entertaining a bunch of MOBs. I could sell a kidney but they are both as old as I am now.

I have a maiden aunt who is getting a bit wobbly now..... she seems my best bet at the moment

in the meantime here is a nice film about a sailor who wears a nice click bait bikini while sailing

 
With reference to your comment about La Vagabond.

They have certainly hit the right formula with a good margin over a quarter of a million You Tube subscribers alone. They also have a very healthy Patreon commitment from their viewers which on the face of it generates over $9000 per video. In addition they are being 'given' ( I do not know the details of the arrangement) the use of a Catamaran by a French manufacturer for a year (this year), Clearly the manufacturer wants to tap into the potential marketing exposure.

They exploit all the social media, Facebook, snapchat, instagram etc and flog the lass's musical output too.

All from a chance start, he bought the boat at an apparently good price after the Italian owners fell out with other. Met the lass in a Greek bar and the rest is history, so they say. However he admits that he had no substantive sailing experience at the start (and it still shows at times) and nor did she. He is singlehanding according to the current video from Tonga to NZ ( the videos are of course behind real time).

I know of no other sailing channel that has anywhere near this broad success - they have even put Delos in the shade. If you view success as financing or part financing your sailing adventures.

This channel along with Delos, RAN Sailing, Follow the Boat, Erik Anndreas (and a handful of others) are all worth watching as opposed to the more gratitutous click bait sailing channels some of which are like watching car crash tv. However, Keep Turning Left is in a different league and will leave an enduring legacy. It is just a real shame it was shafted by YouTube/Google and that seriously undermined the financial base.
 
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NormanB said:
That was one of the car crash tv channels I was referring to.
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a 90 thousand hit car crash though.

Thanks for saying my films might last a bit longer than the bikini girls.

Sv Delos is still earning good patreon money and he has been going for quite a few years now - but his expenses must be immense. I beleive he started with a big fortune and is working at turning it into a small one.

Here is a nice film about a girl in a bikini on a boat with a fish


 
in some ways this is a little frustrating to read. Keep turning left is a strong brand name now. you have done the ground work in creating this(not that you set out to do so). Keepturningleft from a commercial point of view I'm sure is an invaluable and potentially powerful marketing tool.

I can only suggest you take some professional advice, surely someone on here is going to see the opportunities in working with you. I probably don't appreciate the length you go to, and the attention to detail in your films, but if I was marketing boat bits, running a marina business or operating commercially, Id see Keepturningleft as a very powerful marketing tool. forget about google. who gives a dam about bikini clad girls.

Steveeasy

Steveeasy
 
steveeasy said:
... but if I was marketing boat bits, running a marina business or operating commercially, Id see Keepturningleft as a very powerful marketing tool.
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I'm guessing from the figures in the first post in this thread that the offer to swap advertorial content for free berthing at Kip didn't work out too well.
 
"can only suggest you take some professional advice"


I am sure all advice is well meant but I remember D Winter taking his donkey to Santiago in the 1970s for Radio 4 and he is a former BBC staffer.

So he may well be biting his lip at some suggestions after 40 years in the business
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Hi,
£100 is either cheap or discounted, or perhaps they just are not full. either way Kip marina has had an awful lot of exposure over the last few months. I'm sure that is very welcome to any business.

The thing is like it or not both the busineses and Dylan are missing the boat, so to speak. Boat owners spend an absolute fortune on everything and anything, with the upmost respect to Dylan, tweak him a bit and hes worth an awful lot. of course that's not what keep turning left is about, I'm sure Dylan set out simply to share his journey and he has done so very well.

Steveeasy
 
I watched the latest offering this morning before work. Paid my $4 worth.
Come on Dylan, your films are a ray of sunshine and hope for us MOB's and divert us from Trumpton, Brexit, and dark winter evenings. Please, don't give up mate. There must be a way of making money out of the project.
 
dylanwinter said:
Sv Delos is still earning good patreon money and he has been going for quite a few years now - but his expenses must be immense. I beleive he started with a big fortune and is working at turning it into a small one.
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I do not think he ever had a big fortune as such. He had a war chest after liquidating his assets, but borrowed the money for the boat. Both Brian and his brother have worked at irregular intervals, with Delos tied up alongside, to top up the sailing kitty.

Patreon currently earning him $6000+ per video. BTW Delos is currently advertising for crew - but bikini bottoms are probably mandatory.
 
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