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Hi all,

We have just been informed by the receptionist at KAS Marina that 16 yachts at YAT have been fined 9000 tl for not having a blue card...IS this TRUE ??

Do we have to purchase a blue card?

Many thanks in advance

Peter

Now edited to read correctly. Sorry to all concerned. Peter
 
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No idea whether it's true or not,but there has been plenty of advance information regarding the Blue card scheme ,so if anyone doesn't have one then they can't complain if the Turkish police hand out a fine. The card costs 20 YTL, about 8 quid so get yourself one .
 
Good afternoon:

I think that I would have asked for some more details such as the names of the yachts involved, when this happened etc before publishing but different strokes for different folks as they say.

I have just had a "panic" message from a friend asking if this were true. I have no idea but would certainly be looking for more details from the receptionist who made the original statement.

9,000 TL is about £3,200 and therefore not an insignificant sum.

By the way, it is true to say that you have to pay 20 Euros to get a "Blue Card" from Marmaris Yat Marina (MYM) but they are given without any cost at Netsel Marina therefore the question arises as to the real cost of the "Blue Cards" - I suspect that MYM are worried about the bottom line in their accounts.

Cheers

Squeaky
 
20 YTL where we are...so it does seem as if someone is making a bit on the side.

Anyway,there has not been a lot of feedback on the Blue card scheme,particularly as it was well discussed earlier on this forum..

How has it been with you? In our case,we were never asked to produce it,and on the one occasion when we volunteered to have it scanned,it was a bit of a farce.
So it would be interesting to hear how everybody is getting on.
 
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Good morning:

There is something screwy about this thread - the title is "Yat Marina - Marmaris" yet it is written as if the OP is in Kas and deals with yachts being fined in Kas. Why the mention of Yat Marina-Marmaris?

I have heard via e-mail that there is a lot of discussion on this topic on the Crusing Association web site but have not been able to check as I am not a member - others who can might like to check.

I wonder if the excessive heat could be blamed for this thread?

Cheers

Squeaky
 
Squeaky said:
Good morning:

There is something screwy about this thread - the title is "Yat Marina - Marmaris" yet it is written as if the OP is in Kas and deals with yachts being fined in Kas. Why the mention of Yat Marina-Marmaris?

I have heard via e-mail that there is a lot of discussion on this topic on the Crusing Association web site but have not been able to check as I am not a member - others who can might like to check.

I wonder if the excessive heat could be blamed for this thread?

Cheers

Squeaky
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I am a Cruising Association member and there is a similar thread to this on one of their member's only fora. Naturally I'm not going to make public posts from a private forum but (so far) nobody on there has confirmed that these allegations are true.
 
This is the answer from de reception of Yat Marin about the story of the Blue Card on the forums (s).

“Dear Thea and Giel,
It is a story I thing,because we did not hear about...But I know that you have to have a Blue Card and fee for it in Yacht Marina is only 20tl.Till now we give Blue Cards to more than 1000 boats.”

It seems to be wise to check first before putting stories like this on the forum
 
OOP's SORRY

Hi all,

A BIG mistake by me-I said that it was KAS Marina and in fact it was YAT Marina Marmaris. So sorry for the mis-information and HUGE apologies to KAS Marina .

By the way YES we went and purchased a BLUE card so we are legal-Phew. ( have edited the original )

Peter
 
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rivonia said:
Hi all,

A BIG mistake by me-I said that it was KAS Marina and in fact it was YAT Marina Marmaris. So sorry for the mis-information and HUGE apologies to KAS Marina .

By the way YES we went and purchased a BLUE card so we are legal-Phew. ( have edited the original )

Peter
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Happens to the best of us Peter.... As a matter of interest,where did you buy the card,and how much was it?
 
Good evening:

rivonia:
A BIG mistake by me-I said that it was KAS Marina and in fact it was YAT Marina Marmaris. So sorry for the mis-information and HUGE apologies to KAS Marina .

By the way YES we went and purchased a BLUE card so we are legal-Phew. ( have edited the original )

This post seems to be contradicted by post of daleboutm which quotes an e-mail from Yat Marina which states that they (Yat Marina) know nothing about it yet you claim in your original post that you were told by a receptionist that 16 yachts had been fined at YAT which I presume means Marmaris Yat Marina.

I am having trouble getting my head around this latest turn of events but if I understand it correctly you were told by a receptionist at Kas that 16 yachts were fined 9,000 TL at Marmaris Yat Marina and this unsubstantiated information was the basis for your original post.

I don't know if you intended it or not but your post and someone's post with the Cruising Association created a lot of reaction to what turns out to be a lot of smoke and mirrors and totally unnecessary.

For the benefit of Be Be the following is third hand hearsay:

The manager of Netsel Marina attempted to chase this story down today and advises that he was told by the coast guard that a number of boats (less than 10) were checked and discovered not to have Blue Cards. They were given a paper which advised them that they would be reported to the appropriate government department (some confusion in translating the name) but it was something similar to "Commerce and Shipping". This department would consider the matter and if they decided (some day in the future) to proceed the yachts could be charged and fined up to 9,300 TL if found guilty.

The manager advises that this matter would take a long time before any decision was made on the reports.

A friend has a friend who works for a local agency who has promised to research the regulations and get back to her tomorrow or the next day with more details of the information obtained by the Manager of Netsel.

Watch this space for further info when obtained.

In the meantime it appears sensible to get a Blue Card regardless if you have the appropriate tank or not.

Cheers

Squeaky
 
Blue Card Fines...

Hello Everyone,

We are very sorry that our staff miss quoted Mr. Peter Dixon (@ rivonia).

Office staff wanted to emphasize how important it is to Peter who did not want to buy Blue card previously, but it was a wrong example and information.

Hereby, i want to tell you the real story about Blue Card Fines.
Yes, it is TRUE. But it was in Yalıkavak,Bodrum not in Kaş not in Marmaris.

We received an email on 24.07.2012 from Mr. Hasan Kacmaz ( coordinator of Alanya Marina ) which says 7 yachts in Yalikavak Marina have been fined 9420 TL /each yacht for not having a blue card.

As i checked it with Front Office Manager of Yalikavak Marina is;
*Yachts which is fined, are under foreign flag but owned by Turkish Citizen.
*Coast Guard controlled mentioned yachts out of marina.
not in the marina.
*Some of the yacht owners paid penalty with cash payment discount ca.6000 TL something but some of them resorted to a court for not paying fines.

As Kaş Marina we are advised our guests about Blue Card and afford them to buy Blue Card. Blue Card fee is 20 TRL.

To be honest i did not hear any from our guests till now that Coast Guard controlled them for Blue Card.

We are very sorry to troubled you on this matter and gave occasion to missunderstood. Please accept our most sincere apologies.


Best Regards,

Umit Golgeci
Kaş Marina
Front Office & Harbor Chief
Email: umitgolgeci@kasmarina.com.tr
 
Squeaky said:
Good evening:

rivonia:
A BIG mistake by me-I said that it was KAS Marina and in fact it was YAT Marina Marmaris. So sorry for the mis-information and HUGE apologies to KAS Marina .

By the way YES we went and purchased a BLUE card so we are legal-Phew. ( have edited the original )

This post seems to be contradicted by post of daleboutm which quotes an e-mail from Yat Marina which states that they (Yat Marina) know nothing about it yet you claim in your original post that you were told by a receptionist that 16 yachts had been fined at YAT which I presume means Marmaris Yat Marina.

I am having trouble getting my head around this latest turn of events but if I understand it correctly you were told by a receptionist at Kas that 16 yachts were fined 9,000 TL at Marmaris Yat Marina and this unsubstantiated information was the basis for your original post.

I don't know if you intended it or not but your post and someone's post with the Cruising Association created a lot of reaction to what turns out to be a lot of smoke and mirrors and totally unnecessary.

For the benefit of Be Be the following is third hand hearsay:

The manager of Netsel Marina attempted to chase this story down today and advises that he was told by the coast guard that a number of boats (less than 10) were checked and discovered not to have Blue Cards. They were given a paper which advised them that they would be reported to the appropriate government department (some confusion in translating the name) but it was something similar to "Commerce and Shipping". This department would consider the matter and if they decided (some day in the future) to proceed the yachts could be charged and fined up to 9,300 TL if found guilty.

The manager advises that this matter would take a long time before any decision was made on the reports.

A friend has a friend who works for a local agency who has promised to research the regulations and get back to her tomorrow or the next day with more details of the information obtained by the Manager of Netsel.

Watch this space for further info when obtained.

In the meantime it appears sensible to get a Blue Card regardless if you have the appropriate tank or not.

Cheers

Squeaky
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For the benefit of everyone:

Nothing about this story is true. I am at Yat Marin and I can report to you that there is not a single bit of truth in the rumor about 16 boats and 9,000TL fine. I checked it out and I checked it out, then I verified what I learned.

Let me make it clear with respect to the rumor about boats/blue card/Yat Marin:
Zero boats were found to be in violation
Zero boats were fined and
ZeroTL fine was paid.

Bill
 
Good evening:

BeBe: For the benefit of everyone:

Nothing about this story is true. I am at Yat Marin and I can report to you that there is not a single bit of truth in the rumor about 16 boats and 9,000TL fine. I checked it out and I checked it out, then I verified what I learned.

Let me make it clear with respect to the rumor about boats/blue card/Yat Marin:
Zero boats were found to be in violation
Zero boats were fined and
ZeroTL fine was paid.

Are you suggesting/stating that no yachts were fined at Yalıkavak as reported by Mr Umit Golgec and Mr. Hasan Kacmaz in post 14? Or are you claiming that nothing untoward has happened at Marmaris Yat marina?

Might be interesting to know how you checked and with whom you verified the information you received.

Seems very strange that two men involved in marina management would claim that there is some credence to this story even though the original facts/location was garbled.

I also reported the comments of the manager of Netsel Marina who spoke to the Coast Guard in post 12 which indicated that some yachts had been checked and warned although not fined as originally reported. I did not speak with the Coast Guard personally so obviously what I was told by the Netsel Manager was hearsay but feel it is quite likely to have an element of truth in it.

Cheers

Squeaky
 
Squeaky said:
Good evening:

BeBe:For the benefit of everyone:

Nothing about this story is true. I am at Yat Marin and I can report to you that there is not a single bit of truth in the rumor about 16 boats and 9,000TL fine. I checked it out and I checked it out, then I verified what I learned.

Let me make it clear with respect to the rumor about boats/blue card/Yat Marin:
Zero boats were found to be in violation
Zero boats were fined and
ZeroTL fine was paid.

Are you suggesting/stating that no yachts were fined at Yalıkavak as reported by Mr Umit Golgec and Mr. Hasan Kacmaz in post 14? Or are you claiming that nothing untoward has happened at Marmaris Yat marina?

Might be interesting to know how you checked and with whom you verified the information you received.

Cheers Squeaky
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Squeaky,

I made no mention of Yalıkavak, nor do I have any information about Yalıkavak.

I am stating:
"Let me make it clear with respect to the rumor about boats/blue card/Yat Marin:
  1. Zero boats were found to be in violation
  2. Zero boats were fined and
  3. ZeroTL fine was paid."

Regarding your question as to how I checked:
I assume that you are not questioning my credibility, but that you may genuinely want to learn something, so I will answer your question:
I interviewed two Yat Marin management people. I utilized normal investigative skills and also used NLP. I cross-checked and verified their stories. I then spoke to a long-time Turkish friend who I will identify only as someone who has first-hand access to information and cross-checked what he told me. There is no evidence that any boats were fined at Yat Marin regarding the Blue Card Scheme.

Bill
 
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