Yard charges for outside contractors

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andyball

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How much do others have to pay to bring in outside contractors? Our yard charges £25 per man per day, even though they don't have for example, an electrician,rigger etc on site.

Can understand a much lower fee to allow for admin. of checking insurance etc , but £25 each man?..........alternative is yard brings their favourites in & wacks a load on top.
 
"name & shame" ? OK then


Hayling Yacht Company of Mill Rythe Lane, Hayling Island.


Their latest wheeze is that as co-owner of a boat, I must not work on it??!...........also that yard-work done on the boat must NOT be discussed with anyone other than Boss & son, not even the yard foreman : we're beginning to think that £25+vat per man per day for outside contractors is actually easier than dealing with the company itself.
 
Andy, that's an out and out rip off. Wouyld be tempted to report them to the local trading standards officer, but could be a problem if you wish to stay there.

The cheek of the people, wanting to charge you to work on your own boat!!! That's amazing!
 
Hi,

I am sure that if your are insured, you should be able to work on your boat. This would seem a "unfair term and condition" which could not be enforced regardless of whether it is a boat yard contract.

Regards,

Poggy
 
You could call them up at 4.00 am and ask them top come and cook breakfast for you so that you can catch an early tide. To my mind cooking breakfast is more like work than doing many jobs on the boat!

Joe
 
Re: move!

They don't seem to stop most diy'ers, just me.........ironic considering the value of work that the yard have had (& might still get) as a result of my checking every last thing & convincing co-owner to pay for.

btw.....(before my ownership)...does 14 hours with machine polishers seem excessive for "polishing topsides" on a painted Nauticat 44?

what about £145 + vat just for labour, simply to connect a fitted replacement generator...."existing wiring to remain"...all switchgear already there.

or £290+ vat labour to ditch a 2 way mains consumer unit & fit a ten way one, the only new wiring being a 2m length from shorepower/generator switch to the consumer unit ?

I could go on,but it's a sunny day
 
G'day Andy,

I have completed a number of fibreglass constructions / repairs / modifications on boats in yards and can tell you that 'most' demand 10% of the account to allow you in.

The same yard will call you a week or so later to ask if I'm available to carry out work on another vessel. My standard response to them is NO, however this depends on just how flush the grog fund is at the time.

Needless to say this 10% is passed on in most cases. Other yards do not have a problem with others working in their yards, but no way of knowing till you ask.

Hope this helps

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<font color=blue>Strewth! I used to have a swinging mooring there back in 1968 when the old man was alive and all their equipment was left overs from when the place was a MTB base in WW2.
One of the houseboats that used to be there is moored with me right now. It was the 1940 Harbour Patrol Boat from Pompey and my mate is restoring her.

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Re: move!

Are they trying to get rid of you!!! If others are allowed to DIY and you instead have to pay £25 per man per day I'd tell 'em where to go.

What happens if someone works on the boat for half a day. Do you get charged £12.50?

Doing DIY on your boat is a good thing so that you've got enough familiarity/confidence to fix things when they go wrong at sea, so in my opinion marinas should not be allowed to discourage owners from working on their boat.

And I don't see how anyone could come up with a sensible definition of DIY - does it count as DIY maintenance if you polish the boat with a polisher? How about if you clean it with a bucket and mop? Take the dipstick out of the engine to check the oil level? Replace an engine anode? Or any number of other dead easy jobs that you're not necessarily going to get the yard or £25 a day contractor to do.

Chris
 
Re: move!

they say they allow diy, but don't want to accept that I'm co-owner of second boat there & can work on that as "diy" too.

Aside from that, thought £25 per man/day excessive in any case,simply to protect their profit,even when not all trades are covered by employees.

MDL much less,for example.
 
Andy - why don't you challenge them in court? This was done successfully somewhere in the US some time back (suing is a national pastime here).

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Re: I suggest..

Thanks to all:
the matter of working on co-owned boat seems resolved,thankfully.......but other people have been asked not to "help" on their friends boats...or to produce insurance & pay the £25 per man per day as if they were an "outside contractor", not a pal helping out.

EG: I'm a wizz with electrics, but if I helped anyone else there, even if no money changing hands,there'd probably be loud discussions if noticed.



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