G12
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That's probably discrimination now, or racist or something equally Daily Mail.
Yachtmaster Standards
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That's probably discrimination now, or racist or something equally Daily Mail.
capnsensible
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Its a requirement for Seararers Medicals that you must pass a colour blindness test....among other things. If not passed, the candidate will be restricted to daylight duties, quite a career trasher.
Probably the same for flying etc.
alant
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I know what he signed up and paid for. There were several others on the boat with him, and I suspect some of them were there for other assessments. I also suspect that the Examiner wasn't briefed adequately by the sea school on who was there for what. My friend certainly didn't know the 'ins and outs' of what was and wasn't expected on the differing courses, and did - or tried - what he was told.
While not a 'ZTH' type - just a non-assuming but quite enthusiastic fellow, he's no fool. And a 32 y.o. director of a technology company. He certainly could deliver most, if not all, of the specified course content from his time on the water with us and others. I asked if I could approach the school on his behalf - I wanted to know what had transpired - but he felt so humiliated that he declined. He hasn't sailed, to my knowledge, since.
I believed he was an ideal candidate for that course and I persuaded him of the benefits of getting some pro training earlier rather than later in his sailing. He had intended to buy a new boat later that year at SIBS, and had even shortlisted three.
Not a happy outcome.....
I think your getting the completely wrong/duff information!
1) If your friend was on a DS Practical course, it is unlikely (unless the school were scraping the barrel to fill the boat), to do this at the same time as any YM preparation week. This mix does not allow the DS guy much opportunity to act as 'skipper' or practice his skills. The usual mix, is DS + competant crew, or YM/CS + comp crew.
2) This apart, there is no examiner onboard for a YM prep week.
3) At the end of the 5 days prep week, anyone 'not' going on to be examined (usually at the weekend, so the examiner would join the boat on Friday pm), is asked/invited to stay on as crew (if convenient for them). Your DS friend would similarly only be there as crew.
4) The examiner, when joining, will meticulously check all the candidates paperwork, including any necessary pre-exam certificates like VHF + in depth scrutiny of their log books. It is unlikely that any examiner ( I have met many at the end of prep weeks) would mistake your DS friend as a YM candidate, will be influenced either by the school, or the Instructor (who in most cases is asked to leave the boat, whilst the exam takes place).
5) I have yet to meet an examiner who is going to be influenced by anything outside the candidates capability (ok a nice smile & 36D might help, but they are only human). The examiners are extremely helpful & their input is usually excellent. They do not abuse candidates in any way. Yes, some have quirks peculiar to them, but they take their job very seriously.
PS - skill in technology/keyboards, is not a pre-requisite of any sailing capability. Sometimes quite the opposite.
capnsensible
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+1 
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Indeed and I would go so far as to say its reduced the ability to pilot confidently as the wee boat on the screen shows where one is. Technology is good but it can diminish cognitive skills, essesntial for a skipper in my opinion.
Elessar
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I agree with you it can deminuish awareness, I think pilotage skills have suffered the most.
However I disagree with the underlying suggestion that to understand the electronics is not neccessary. A yachtmaster should have at least a working knowledge of all the tools at his disposal. Including the electronics which can help keep you safe when used well.
shaunksb
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yes I know but I can't see how anyone who has gained the time & experiance to put in for their yachtmaster won't be able to find their way around a chartplotter or a GPS by now.
By trying to cram in practicle demonstrations of all these things reduces the time the examiner has to see the bigger picture.
So to answer the OP I don't think we need to add anything more. I think it's about right.
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