Yachtmaster ocean - on line course?

zoidberg, that’s a great post, very informative. As I’ve previously written, I did the course 1:1 with a retired Master Mariner and he drumed into me the importance of maintaining the DR log as the foundation for navigation.

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To the OP, congratulations in deriving a PL 1 mile from your known location! Using my C&P Sailing Sextant the best I’ve ever achieved on a boat was around 8 miles, however that’s good enough to keep me on track and avoid anything immovable rising out of the sea.

I’ve read the post showing the python example but for me it’s missing the point, granted I have no exclusivity on getting the point.

During end of year exams as a first year undergraduate in mechanical engineering we had to use a slide rule and/or log tables for calculations. During the second year (1976) non-programmable electronic calculators were allowed. I have fond memories of being told that my answers were wrong to 6 decimal places.

There’s a lot more to deriving a PL than crunching the numbers. Has the sextant been checked and calibrated. Have the corrections for index error, height of eye and apparent altitude been applied. Has the chronometer been calibrated. Did you take half a dozen sights and times and plot goodness of fit? Roly-poly boat syndrome.

For me it’s a very enjoyable process and my personal acknowledgement and gratitude to the mathematicians and navigators of a long bygone age. The sight reduction process gives you something to do and exercises the little grey cells during a passage. I recon the founders would be turning in their graves at the thought of using a calculator but I acknowledge that my views are not shared by many.
 
There’s a lot more to deriving a PL than crunching the numbers. Has the sextant been checked and calibrated. Have the corrections for index error, height of eye and apparent altitude been applied. Has the chronometer been calibrated. Did you take half a dozen sights and times and plot goodness of fit? Roly-poly boat syndrome.

I agree and I have been practising on and. I have a watch that loses one second a month consistently which I calibrated against an NPL radio clock. I have found that I can often get the same accuracy with my Davis plastic sextant by taking roughly twice as many sights plotting them and removing outliers, compared to my metal Tamaya. On the other hand my arm would get tired taking 10 sights with a metal sextant. Not yet got a good way to note time when on my own. Also the Davis always needs recalibrating every time out of the box but the Tamaya stays calibrated. I suppose that is what you pay for.
Its doing it on a boat I need to practice. Also star/planet/moon sights as I cant do those with an artificial horizon.

With Sun run Sun the DR is going to be important I know, and while logs are reliable when calibrated it is the course that may be more of a problem. An autopilot on compass mode can steer an amazingly accurate course on average, but the crew do need to be disciplined noting time and log for course changes. On my own boat I suppose I could check the NMEA logged data (but not GPS).
 
Not yet got a good way to note time when on my own. Also the Davis always needs recalibrating every time out of the box but the Tamaya stays calibrated.

In a thread a few years back someone suggested using a voice recorder: giving a time "mark" at the beginning of the session, saying "mark" when each sight taken, then playing back and timing from the beginning.

Many digital watches can record lap times so you can start it going at a known time then hit the lap button and note that along with jotting down an altitude.

I've always been surprised that none of the watches marketed as "sailing watches" have the ability to record a series of time points to make taking star sights easier: they all just seem geared to racing.

I too have a Davis (mk 15). Calibration takes barely more time than *checking* calibration and tbh I have to remind myself how to do it if I haven't used it for a while so having to recalibrate every day means I don't forget how to do it (and can be argued as a good think :-)
 
"Also star/planet/moon sights as I cant do those with an artificial horizon."

I've practiced these at home with an artificial horizon. I use a shallow dish of water on a stool. Take the altitude from reflection to actual body and half it to get altitude above horizon.
 
"Also star/planet/moon sights as I cant do those with an artificial horizon."

I've practiced these at home with an artificial horizon. I use a shallow dish of water on a stool. Take the altitude from reflection to actual body and half it to get altitude above horizon.

Really? You can do planets and stars! What is the secret? I have tried water, and mineral oil, and wind shielding with perspex. So far only managed to get a sight of the sun.

Maybe your stool is the secret, maybe a really tall bar stool and close up you can see the stars?
 
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