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Well I have to say I was remarkably disappointed; I don't often buy sailing mags nowadays - frankly I get better info and entertainment here - but I bought this issue specifically because it has a Centaur on the front cover, " Why Lord Nelson would have loved the Westerly Centaur " and " UK's Favourite Boat ".

As my father had one ( no. 2187 Caroline ) and a relatively novice friend has just bought one, I thought there would be an interesting review.

What I got was a superficial sketchy story by someone who clearly doesn't know the boats.

Judging by the mentions of excessive weather helm and the windward keel coming out of the water, plus the head on photo, she should have been reefed long before; the fact that the owner had tried and failed to fit efficient reefing is his problem, not the boats' !

There is no mention of the fact most Centaurs will require a new engine by now.

No mention of the reason for their having what was for the time a large engine; ie not because the design requires it, simply that Westerlys were offered a deal by Volvo Penta.

No mention of the boat acquiring a rather unfair reputation for poor performance, partly because of ill informed prejudice arising from the big engine, partly because the boat attracted a lot of novice sailors.

The writer seems to think any decent trip in a Centaur is pushing luck, but a fair few have been a long way, also 26' is NOT a 'small boat' !

No mention of the standard fixed 3 blade prop, with the pro's and cons of that.

It's stated that early boats suffered keel leak problems but later ones were more heavily laid up; having known early and late Centaurs, both owned by experienced sailors who both happened to be good engineers, I and others have always been under the impression it's the complete opposite - early boats were built like tanks but later boats were lighter, reflecting the development of grp boats in general.

Frankly I feel a little conned by the front cover, and I know a Centaur owner who feels the same.

What with this effort, and the YBW news about the burning fishing boat off Beachy Head " both Emsworth lifeboats were launched "...

No lifeboats at Emsworth and it's miles away, try Eastbourne !

I think it fair to say the chances of my buying any IPC mags again soon is remarkably slim, and there's more chance of my getting begging letters from Kiera Knightly than their getting a subscription cheque of mine...
 
Have to Agree

Although I still enjoyed reading YM I wasn't impressed with the Centaur article. As a relatively new owner working hard to get my boat up to scratch it made me think, "Why bother?" Seajet has done a detailed analysis of the article so I will say no more!
 
Regular readers will know that this article follows the style of all the previous articles in the same series. It is titled "Me and my boat" and is intended to reflect "ordinary" owners their boats and the places they sail. It is not intended to be a detailed "test" of the boat, but to give a flavour of what it is like to own the boat in question. What I like about the series is that it often goes to places outside the usual densely populated sailing areas and covers a very wide range of boats.

Of course some may want a more analytical type of article, but don't criticise it for not being something it is not intended to be.
 
I read the Gunfleet 43 article and decided that if I had £450k to spend on a boat I wouldn't buy that boat. Although the article claimed that lots of experience had gone in to the design it also reported simple design errors like no grab rails on the coach roof to assist with walking the narrow gunwales nor a centre grab rail in the huge saloon for when moving about in rough weather. Seemed like schoolboy errors to me, but mr Matthews need not worry as I'm not a £450k boat buyer! I'd sooner have a Rustler for that sort of money.
 
So why post it on the PBO site? :confused:

I put it here because I think PBO types more likely to be interested in Centaurs nowadays, and anyway we all flit between here and Scuttlebutt etc.

As for knowing the series of articles, well I bought it on the 'promise' of the cover; if I'd known it was not a real review, by a non Centaur sailor I would have known to steer clear but there wasn't any warning 'only to be read in context of previous episodes' ! :)
 
As for knowing the series of articles, well I bought it on the 'promise' of the cover; if I'd known it was not a real review, by a non Centaur sailor I would have known to steer clear but there wasn't any warning 'only to be read in context of previous episodes' ! :)

So why did you think the front cover words 'Why Lord Nelson would have loved the Westerly Centaur' was going to be a detailed technical description of the boat's design, construction and history?
 
So why did you think the front cover words 'Why Lord Nelson would have loved the Westerly Centaur' was going to be a detailed technical description of the boat's design, construction and history?

Perhaps because it could have gone on to say why, and why ' UK's Favourite Boat ' ...:rolleyes:

Anyway that's obviously a typo, the Centaur may be 2nd favourite...
 
I put it here because I think PBO types more likely to be interested in Centaurs nowadays, and anyway we all flit between here and Scuttlebutt etc.

As for knowing the series of articles, well I bought it on the 'promise' of the cover; if I'd known it was not a real review, by a non Centaur sailor I would have known to steer clear but there wasn't any warning 'only to be read in context of previous episodes' ! :)

You could always have stood in WH Smith and scanned the format of the article before buying. It is pretty clear from the layout without reading details of the content what the approach is.
 
I have never been one to stand in WH Smith and use it as a free library ( in fact I try to patronise small newsagents etc as I dislike the way WHS treat their employees and customers, one young girl serving a large shop with a long line of customers ) - but it did strike me that in this instance it would have been beneficial.
 
I have never been one to stand in WH Smith and use it as a free library

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

One in a million

When I worked close enough to a town centre to walk to W.H Smith in a lunch hour that is what I did nearly every day!
 
Although the article claimed that lots of experience had gone in to the design it also reported simple design errors like no grab rails on the coach roof to assist with walking the narrow gunwales nor a centre grab rail in the huge saloon for when moving about in rough weather.

To be fair to Gunfleet when we tested the boat they did point out that they thought they wouldn't need the grab rails, but have. Since found out they did, so all boat from hull no.2 include bother grab rails

See the video to see more

 
I put it here because I think PBO types more likely to be interested in Centaurs nowadays, and anyway we all flit between here and Scuttlebutt etc.

As for knowing the series of articles, well I bought it on the 'promise' of the cover; if I'd known it was not a real review, by a non Centaur sailor I would have known to steer clear but there wasn't any warning 'only to be read in context of previous episodes' ! :)

I have a Sabre 27 which is built like a tank, similar in concept to the centaur.

My impression is that they are both under rated and provide a tremendous value for money.

Compared with modern 2mm layups I know whch I would prefer in a blow!

The article stuck me as a pretty trivial insight on a boat proven to be capable of great SAFE trips wherever the competence of the skipper and crew took them.

Well done SeaJet!

Regards and HAPPY CHRISTMAS & GOOD WILL TO ALL :D:D:D:D:D


Regards

Ian & Jo
 
Still thinking vaguely about my overpriced-download thread from a couple of months ago...

...I for one would very willingly find £4.95 or even £6.95 for each magazine issue, if the monthlies which we're so often decidedly dissatisfied with, were crammed cover to cover, with dozens of those old yacht-reports and equipment reviews from decades ago...

...most of the featured boats remain in widespread use, and reports on kit from earlier years remain fascinating compared with the improved later versions. A little intelligent editing might put the evolution of hatches/winches/ropes, etc in focus each month...

...and no new copy would be required at all! Maybe it could be called "Yachting Monthly Vintage", something like that...

...I'd pay up a year's subscription, like a shot. :)

Just a thought...:rolleyes:
 
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