trophy160
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Does anyone know the likely costs and availability of moorings (for a 37 footer) might be in Porthmadog or other location in mid/north wales?
Yacht moorings in Wales (Porthmadog)
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AngusMcDoon
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PortMadDog HM's number is 01766512927.
There are spare berths in Poofelly Marina for the first time for a long time, or do you specifically want a mooring? 37 foot would probably be about £4k per year.
If you have much of a keel getting in and out of PortMadDog is very tide limited.
trophy160
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Currently in Rye wondering about a move to mid/north Wales and thought Porthmadog looked a nice area. Boat draws 6 feet (fin) and was looking perhaps for a non drying swinging mooring somewhere so not marina prices. But I guess I'm looking for something that does not exist in that part of the world
AngusMcDoon
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Porthmadog is a very nice area - to vist, but with a 6 foot keel, not to keep a boat.
There are stay afloat pile moorings in Pwllheli harbour. Stikker Spew will be along shortly to tell you about them.
There are swinging moorings in Holyhead - run by the Yacht Club, but Holyhead Harbour is a bit grim. Surrounding area ok, but strong tidal streams.
There are also club swinging moorings at Abersoch, but they are completely exposed to the SW and summer only.
I'm pretty sure there are some stay afloat moorings outside the harbour at Caernarfon and also at Felinheli. I expect someone with a big white beard will know more.
Juggler7823
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Very few swinging moorings in Portmadoc which do not dry. Most moorings which do not dry are trot moorings. It takes around 30-40 mins to get from SWM to moorings and can only be done within 2-3 hours either side of HW.
Juggler7823
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Shelter at Abersoch and Trot moorings at Pwllheli
The moorings at Abersoch are sheltered from the south and west. They are open to the east. Most insurance companies will only cover for the the summer months at Abersoch
Most of the trot moorings at Pwllheli are for up to 36foot. There are only 2 designated as for up to 40 foot and Stu and I have those. You might be able to negotiate with the HM to put a 37foot on the 2 trots ahead of us but it might be a squeeze.
The moorings at Abersoch are sheltered from the south and west. They are open to the east. Most insurance companies will only cover for the the summer months at Abersoch
Most of the trot moorings at Pwllheli are for up to 36foot. There are only 2 designated as for up to 40 foot and Stu and I have those. You might be able to negotiate with the HM to put a 37foot on the 2 trots ahead of us but it might be a squeeze.
AngusMcDoon
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trophy160
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OK, I'm getting the picture now (and have had a look via Google satellite), so it sounds like Pwllheli would be the best place, and I should say I'm not looking to move in the immediate future. My boat is a Bavaria 36 but actually measures 37'. So if I understand you correctly then I may have some trouble finding a trot mooring, but what would the cost be. What are the issues sailing out of Pwllheli? What are the options for coming out over winter and again what are the additional costs of hard standing?
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caiman
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Mooring fees in Barmouth are £29.94/m.You will have to supply your own mooring or use the local contractor.
Barmouth Harbour office 01341 280 671 ask for Glyn.Say Caiman sent you.It won't help you,but it might help me!.
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Barmouth Harbour office 01341 280 671 ask for Glyn.Say Caiman sent you.It won't help you,but it might help me!.
Cheers
Kilter
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trophy160
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Forgive the idiot questions of a southerner, but does Barmouth offer sheltered protection, or is it also restricted to summer months?
AngusMcDoon
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Sheltered right inside, but that's the drying bit. The deep area will be much more exposed. Also limited tidal access again. And not for the faint hearted when the tide is running strongly. Or those short of cake.
Entrance also untenable in strong winds with a W in it, which is the prevailing direction. Like Porthmadog, a good place to visit, but I would not want to keep a 6' deep boat there permanently.
caiman
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Just typed out a full description of Barmouth and it disappeared into the ether, again,
Barmouth-deep water moorings are in the run of the tide,great fun in a spring ebb when there's west in the wind.(for the same reason,only approach Barmouth on the flood in Spring tides,Wind against tide in the channel is horrific)Use a suitably protected chain bridal,not rope.Weld all your shackles shut.Do not be tempted to increase the length of your riser beyond the recomendations.By all means increase the length of the ground chain.Use Bradney chain and follow the guidelines in their mooring booklet.Get a decent dinghy, and use your recently checked life jacket while in it.
My boat has been in the water since spring2009,and will probably remain in the water this Winter,all be it on a drying mooring.
How anyone could even consider leaving a boat unattended in Abersoch is beyond me,especially during the traditional bank holiday gales.Still,'whatever floa.......'
Cheers
Barmouth-deep water moorings are in the run of the tide,great fun in a spring ebb when there's west in the wind.(for the same reason,only approach Barmouth on the flood in Spring tides,Wind against tide in the channel is horrific)Use a suitably protected chain bridal,not rope.Weld all your shackles shut.Do not be tempted to increase the length of your riser beyond the recomendations.By all means increase the length of the ground chain.Use Bradney chain and follow the guidelines in their mooring booklet.Get a decent dinghy, and use your recently checked life jacket while in it.
My boat has been in the water since spring2009,and will probably remain in the water this Winter,all be it on a drying mooring.
How anyone could even consider leaving a boat unattended in Abersoch is beyond me,especially during the traditional bank holiday gales.Still,'whatever floa.......'
Cheers
C
catalac08
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Lots of swinging moorings in Menai Straits and a great place to sail from to Eire, IOM,Scotland as well as the welsh coast and cheap by S Coast standards BUT the weather is not good up there and you will need to get used to being wind, rain and fogbound much more than you will have experience in the south! Great place to visit for a holiday and then go back south to the sun.
AngusMcDoon
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Rain? Wales? Are you sure?
LittleShip
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Menia Straits moorings are good
Menai Bridge Piermaster 01248 71231 or Contact Victoria dock and they will put you in touch with somebody in the know.
Tom
Menai Bridge Piermaster 01248 71231 or Contact Victoria dock and they will put you in touch with somebody in the know.
Tom
garvellachs
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Since we're covering the whole coast here, you might want to consider Conwy too. Tides can be entertaining at Springs and entrance is restricted to +/- 3hrs HW (until you know it well anyway) but there are plenty of swinging moorings. The North Wales Cruising Club (see website) run a launch and you can be sure of a friendly welcome there. The Harbour Office runs the moorings.
trophy160
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thanks everyone, lots of good ideas and info to follow up
sarico
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Suggest you have a look at Caernarfon Harbour Trust's web site as they have fully maintained deep water swinging moorings south of the Swellies. Anglesey County Council also have swinging deep water moorings north of the Swellies, but you are responsible for providing tackle. In terms of sailing, Anglesey has some excellent anchorages and marinas - if you go to Pwllheli I suspect you may have limited anchorages to visit given the SW winds.
To see more of the anchorages around Anglesey I suggest you visit www.nwvyc.org.uk and have a look at their sailing programme, Venturer magazine and the local Pilot.
To see more of the anchorages around Anglesey I suggest you visit www.nwvyc.org.uk and have a look at their sailing programme, Venturer magazine and the local Pilot.