It looks as if the first one has an attachment for a bum-strap, possibly more, but I too dislike the step adjacent to the sink, which looks like a recipe for a broken ankle. A modest barrier could be installed. I am less convinced about the hand-holds on the new boat from the companionway to the saloon. I would want more than just the fiddle to the left, and the table corner is sharp enough to hurt, if not to injure. As for style, I’m not sure that the ye olde wood goes very well with the modern windows, though impressive in its way.
As I said much depends on the type of sailing.
I feel like we're looking at different things (although I'm purposefully biasing to the new). That new interior in the image isn't all that open and there's very little room to fall from what I can see. All of that furniture will be strong enough to lean on. If you must have rails on the roof, fit them. In reality the Rustler is designed around the kind of sailing the boat probably doesn't do, while the other one is designed around the kind of sailing it probably does do.
Why do they have to look like a modern attic accomodation with greatefforts made to cover up or diguies the fact it’s a boat on the water with an engine to propel it and sails and ropes and all the cubbies,sails in the foclsle are great to sleep on all round access to the engine and fuel tanks etc a good safety feature etc,etc why this demented fear of anything actually nautical being visible……just pondering
You make the design point well and I agree with it.
I don't know where you got the idea that HRs are dark and gloomy. I know that some of the old ones were, perhaps the Mk 1 312 being the worst offender, but my 2000 boat is lighter than my friend's Bavaria of the time or his later Hanse, and later HRs have been progressively lighter, especially with a change to lighter woods.
I agree. My efforts at similar style, first in my old Eventide, done about 30 years ago and similar work in progress on my current bigger sister Golden Hind.What I like is the Herreshoff style interior. White bulkheads with varnished hard wood trim.
I don't like is the Halberg inside of a cigar box look, Dark and pokey.
That certainly scores marks for avoiding straight lines! I knew someone with a Fisher 34 that had had a spiral staircase of sorts fitted that looked grand. I do like the Herreshoff interior but I think that a light interior is overrated, unless it is in a pilot house, I have been in boats that were distinctly dark but it has never worried me. The only new boats that I thought dreary were the Bavarias that we looked at in the ‘90s, with very dark wood.
Fine if you think 8 different boats is a sign of not knowing what I want.
That's one every 2.5 years, just seemed a lot to me. Perhaps I'm unusual in investing in boats for longer?
Because 2.5 x 8 is 55.5? How?
I asked about the last 20 years since we were talking about what the current market wants. I didn't realise you'd answered a different question, although since your new boat was a day cruiser so unrelated to the thread I guess that was obvious in hindsight.
Labour would likely be the same. CNC can be used just as effectively on solid wood as on composite woods, traditional techniques would be business suicide even for niche builders. The main difference is composite wood products are more stable and generally stronger for lower weights.
