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Hi,

I need our Moody 36cc (1979 older model) moved from Newcastle down to Eastbourne, I don't have the time to do it myself or any experience in those waters.
I have rang a couple of companies and we are into £1000+ already, what other options are there out there?

Anyone want to move it for me :-)

Thanks in advance
 
That sounds quite reasonable for a qualified skipper and crew. Would be more expensive by road including the lifts either end.

£1000 for two people, food, diesel, stopovers etc for a passage that is likely to take over a week is not a lot of money, and if you don't have mates prepared to do it for nothing you are stuck with commercial rates.
 
Thanks, I wasn't saying it isn't reasonable, I was wondering if there is other options....

Mind you, I never understand why they charge for food? You have to eat anyway...why should I have to pay for the food during the trip...seems wrong. oh well.
 
mattnj said:
Hi,

I need our Moody 36cc (1979 older model) moved from Newcastle down to Eastbourne, I don't have the time to do it myself or any experience in those waters.
I have rang a couple of companies and we are into £1000+ already, what other options are there out there?

Anyone want to move it for me :-)

Thanks in advance
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Even rhumb line, its about 322 Nm, which optimistically will take at least 5 days, as indicated by Trantona above.
Also, this £1000 doesn't include any stopovers/fuel costs.

Are you not able to consider an assisted passage, with someone experienced onboard?
 
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mattnj said:
Thanks, I wasn't saying it isn't reasonable, I was wondering if there is other options....

Mind you, I never understand why they charge for food? You have to eat anyway...why should I have to pay for the food during the trip...seems wrong. oh well.
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So your wages do not cover your own food? Strange that as food is not cheap and without it we would all die. All it means is they are quoting for the labour and all other charges separately. No one would quote a total cost including berthing return rail fare (for example) as the only known cost is how many days it should take to sail that distance.
 
mattnj said:
Thanks, I wasn't saying it isn't reasonable, I was wondering if there is other options....

Mind you, I never understand why they charge for food? You have to eat anyway...why should I have to pay for the food during the trip...seems wrong. oh well.
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You don't, but the price will be higher to compensate.

Why not cut the moans & state what you think you should pay!
 
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I think somewhere just over £1000 is a great deal.

Assume a 5 day passage at rock-bottom prices of £130pd for skipper (inc insurance); £70pd for mate; £10pd subsistence allowance (companies always pay subsistence when someone has to travel). That comes to £1,100 plus marina fees, diesel, etc.

Now I know one can get unqualified skippers and mates a lot cheaper, but they're likely to come uninsured as no insurer would touch them with the proverbial barge pole.
 
mattnj said:
Thanks, I wasn't saying it isn't reasonable, I was wondering if there is other options....

Mind you, I never understand why they charge for food? You have to eat anyway...why should I have to pay for the food during the trip...seems wrong. oh well.
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The profit margins on deliveries are small, quite often a skipper will be lucky to clear the equivilent of £100 a day with crews earning much less if anything at all. Basically they either need their expenses covering or they have to charge more. Usually with a delivery quote though there is a food budget includeded. It's rare that it's left out to be a seperate cost.
 
laika said:
off-peak single eastbourne-newcastle £146.60 per person. Unless they can hitch a ride on a coal lorry.
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Yacht sea delivery prices are pretty cut-to-the-bone. Too much competition from people doing it as a semi-hobby. Also bear in mind that the return travel can't be booked in advance, as you're not certain when you'll arrive, so your rail fares bought on the day can be very high. Often cheaper to hire a car one-way.

Could be a two days passage non-stop, or easily over a week if you hit really bad weather - or something on the boat breaks - and it does surprisingly often. Frequently a delivery passage is the first time in years the boat has been on a proper passage in open water with a crew who are actually going to go out in more than a light breeze on calm days.
 
I've done a few deliveries. You couldn't make a living from them as the daily fee breaks down to a very poor hourly rate for a skipper. It isn't a 9 to 5 job. Then there are the jobs that need doing en route as the boat often needs running repairs or worse needs to be made seaworthy before departure. A number of clients have assured me that the boat and all the equipment is in A1 condition. Until, that is, you try and use it and find it doesn't work. As for food, when I was in the Merchant Navy you were fed as part of the contract, why should a yacht delivery be different? Also if you are at sea in a yacht for several days you have to buy stores and victuals in advance for the crew. I think the price you were quoted isn't unreasonable. After all the delivery skipper will try and get your boat from A to B as efficiently as possible.
 
mattnj said:
Thanks, I wasn't saying it isn't reasonable, I was wondering if there is other options....

Mind you, I never understand why they charge for food? You have to eat anyway...why should I have to pay for the food during the trip...seems wrong. oh well.
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The only cheaper option is to bring it down yourself in a series of little hops.
If you haven't the time you must have the money.
 
Based on my own experience of taking a Moody 36 on an almost identical journey you are looking at some 72 hours seatime, that is a bit under £14 an hour. How much do you pay any other tradesman per hour. Even if you add food it is a pittance for the work involved, and you want to pay them less.
 
maxi77 said:
Based on my own experience of taking a Moody 36 on an almost identical journey you are looking at some 72 hours seatime, that is a bit under £14 an hour. How much do you pay any other tradesman per hour. Even if you add food it is a pittance for the work involved, and you want to pay them less.
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If this is the boat (another thread), then condition must be of interest to any delivery skipper/company undertaking such a trip.
At that price, I'd be very wary.

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Cheap moody 36cc did i imagine it?
Sure I saw a cheap Moody 36cc berthed in Newcastle on ebay last night but its now nowhere to be seen. Pretty sure it was fixed price £13500. Did I imagine it as that seems way cheap."​
 
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