ruvane
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How do yacht delivery skippers work out charges? Per mile, size of boat, time of year, any other factors?
TIA.
TIA.
Yacht delivery costs
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capnsensible
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I do mine on a fixed daily rate. Also travel costs to and from the boat plus provisions on board. Any meals taken ashore I pay my share. The travel and scran are often the sticky points if total understanding isnt agreed on beforehand!!
Im sure there other answers out there, though.
Hope this helps.
Im sure there other answers out there, though.
Hope this helps.
alant
Active member
"How do yacht delivery skippers work out charges? Per mile, size of boat, time of year, any other factors?"
All of those, in any order, depending on the job.
Delivery Skippers are usually underpaid & often least appreciated (for the responsibility they undertake - not simply for the value of the vessel, but all crew), particularly when the owner is onboard & the trip is uneventful/successful.
Why are you asking?
All of those, in any order, depending on the job.
Delivery Skippers are usually underpaid & often least appreciated (for the responsibility they undertake - not simply for the value of the vessel, but all crew), particularly when the owner is onboard & the trip is uneventful/successful.
Why are you asking?
ruvane
Member
I know that I could get a lot more for my yacht selling in the UK than I could where she's currently moored. I'm wondering whether it would pay to have her delivered and then sold there.
Anybody that has more detailed costs is welcome to PM me.
Anybody that has more detailed costs is welcome to PM me.
alant
Active member
What yacht & where from/to?
classacitizen
New member
i paid 100 pounds a day plus food and costs.the total was capped at the number of days the skipper thought it would take.turned out to be more days than planned in the end.think i was lucky.send you his number if you like
ruvane
Member
To return a Moody 30 to the country of her origin from Ashdod, Eastern Med. She was sailed here by the previous owner.
jcmmarine
New member
There are two types. Professional and retired amateurs. I am retired, a yachtmaster, and as long as my expenses are covered, it is a trip I want to do, and insurance is covered, I do it because I enjoy doing it.
Professionals do not like retired amateurs because it reduces what they can charge.
Living in Portsmouth I occasionally, if a boat has been left in France due to weather and the owner having to return to work, bring it back for just the ferry fare for self and wife and owner paying the fuel.
For us it is a paid holiday weekend doing something we enjoy.
So first establish wether you want a proffessional or amature
Professionals do not like retired amateurs because it reduces what they can charge.
Living in Portsmouth I occasionally, if a boat has been left in France due to weather and the owner having to return to work, bring it back for just the ferry fare for self and wife and owner paying the fuel.
For us it is a paid holiday weekend doing something we enjoy.
So first establish wether you want a proffessional or amature
alant
Active member
"For us it is a paid holiday weekend doing something we enjoy.
So first establish wether you want a proffessional or amature"
Exactly!
As a professional, I suggest you look at road transport.
There are plenty of trucks down in Turkey, coming back to UK area - it would make more sense to use this method than sail it back.
A 30' sailing boat is not exactly the fastest mode of transport. Look at the distances involved in such a trip + wear & tear.
Just not viable.
So first establish wether you want a proffessional or amature"
Exactly!
As a professional, I suggest you look at road transport.
There are plenty of trucks down in Turkey, coming back to UK area - it would make more sense to use this method than sail it back.
A 30' sailing boat is not exactly the fastest mode of transport. Look at the distances involved in such a trip + wear & tear.
Just not viable.
Obi
Active member
A trip back from Turkey can not really be done as a holiday on a 30 ft yacht. Nor can £100 a day cover an appropriate level of crew for such a journey. No wonder yachts come back on deliveries with significant wear and tear. I recently did Gosport to Nice on a Legend 33, and at times it was slow progress, in fact at times negative progress, but comfortably doable with four crew and the boat arrived in Nice in better condition than it left Gosport - which is exactly how it should be done.
I took part in a delivery from the Canary Islands recently, initially 3 weeks were planned by the skipper, but I secretly allocated 8 weeks out of my dairy for the trip. It took 6 weeks. To me this illustrates the flaws of a fixed price deal, either the delivery crew lose out financially, or the yacht sails when ideally it shouldn't. At £100 per day, that is £4.16 per hour for the skipper and nothing for anyone else. That £4.16 per hour could become increasingly compromised if delays come into effect. Further more, what of the running costs of a delivery company - adequate insurance, proper safety gear etc? Where can these be catered for when someone is earning a few quid an hour? I think the status quo needs to change dramatically.
£100 a day, you cant get anyone to do anything for that anymore can you? Even a window cleaner makes a lot more than that at about £40-£50 per hour. It is interesting how people view their pride and joy and what they will pay to ensure it's looked after. We all know from our experience and from posts on here that there are a lot of inadequately qualified people on the water doing dreadful things to boats, and that it takes time to learn the skills and gain the experience to be able to get a boat safely across the Solent, not to mention such large oceanic distances. I suppose having a delivery skipper and then a rag-tag team of people trying to get their miles up is the way of doing it cheaply. For me putting a £20k or £100k asset in the hands of such people is a definite no-no, especially with the kinds of time constraints put on these deliveries. I would rather pay the right price and have the right people do it in the right time frame. Or do it myself. Or as mentioned, put it on a lorry.
I took part in a delivery from the Canary Islands recently, initially 3 weeks were planned by the skipper, but I secretly allocated 8 weeks out of my dairy for the trip. It took 6 weeks. To me this illustrates the flaws of a fixed price deal, either the delivery crew lose out financially, or the yacht sails when ideally it shouldn't. At £100 per day, that is £4.16 per hour for the skipper and nothing for anyone else. That £4.16 per hour could become increasingly compromised if delays come into effect. Further more, what of the running costs of a delivery company - adequate insurance, proper safety gear etc? Where can these be catered for when someone is earning a few quid an hour? I think the status quo needs to change dramatically.
£100 a day, you cant get anyone to do anything for that anymore can you? Even a window cleaner makes a lot more than that at about £40-£50 per hour. It is interesting how people view their pride and joy and what they will pay to ensure it's looked after. We all know from our experience and from posts on here that there are a lot of inadequately qualified people on the water doing dreadful things to boats, and that it takes time to learn the skills and gain the experience to be able to get a boat safely across the Solent, not to mention such large oceanic distances. I suppose having a delivery skipper and then a rag-tag team of people trying to get their miles up is the way of doing it cheaply. For me putting a £20k or £100k asset in the hands of such people is a definite no-no, especially with the kinds of time constraints put on these deliveries. I would rather pay the right price and have the right people do it in the right time frame. Or do it myself. Or as mentioned, put it on a lorry.
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Neil_Y
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Over 15 years ago I would get £150.00 per day in my pocket after all expenses and flights paid, I'd also get that rate if I was just shore based supervising yard work for an owner staying in a hotel. The wear and tear on a yacht can run up to £10k for a 3 week ocean crossing if you don't know what you are doing. There will always be wear but keeping a close eye on chafe to sails and running rigging can save lots, even making sure the boat is balanced saves autohelm and rudder bearing wear, which can be significant when sailing day and night for weeks. I've seen wrecked furlers, goose necks, kickers/fittings, rudders, cable steering systems after crossings.
KellysEye
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>How do yacht delivery skippers work out charges? Per mile, size of boat, time of year, any other factors?
They charge by time on passage, food and flight to pick up place. A significant extra cost is the diesel they use, they motor all the way to save time. If you want a delivery skipper who sails please PM me but for obvious reasons he is in high demand so it must be fairly long notice period for the delivery. If you are not on the boat the crew cost will be extra.
They charge by time on passage, food and flight to pick up place. A significant extra cost is the diesel they use, they motor all the way to save time. If you want a delivery skipper who sails please PM me but for obvious reasons he is in high demand so it must be fairly long notice period for the delivery. If you are not on the boat the crew cost will be extra.
johnphilip
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SteveSarabande
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I don't think that is true of all deliveries. I have done 3 and we sailed all of them as much as possible. Obviously if there is no wind the engine goes on
SteveSarabande
Active member
30ft boat is best on a lorry, it would take forever going by sea. The smaller the boat the more weather delays the sailing.
I was told around £5000 for a return load.
I was told around £5000 for a return load.
Obi
Active member
Wow. That is a lot cheaper than by sea.
& = I think this is just a technology glitch, where a character typed is misinterpreted. I might be wrong though, and I imagine someone who knows for sure will be along soon enough.
& = I think this is just a technology glitch, where a character typed is misinterpreted. I might be wrong though, and I imagine someone who knows for sure will be along soon enough.
Uricanejack
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Boat is probably long since sold or delivered.
2007.
No idea. when I was considering how to bring a boat I was looking at boat home. I asked a delivery company for a quote and got quotes from truck companies. I ended up bying a different boat closer to home and delivering it my self.
The delivery company was able to figure out exactly which boat I was looking at. The company is not highly reputed in fact they have been a forum topic. but they came up first on google.
Like a lot of things I suspect you get what you pay for. There are several delivery skippers on these forums who have good reputations here.
2007.
No idea. when I was considering how to bring a boat I was looking at boat home. I asked a delivery company for a quote and got quotes from truck companies. I ended up bying a different boat closer to home and delivering it my self.
The delivery company was able to figure out exactly which boat I was looking at. The company is not highly reputed in fact they have been a forum topic. but they came up first on google.
Like a lot of things I suspect you get what you pay for. There are several delivery skippers on these forums who have good reputations here.
