Babylon
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I’m surprised there isn’t a thread here already - with speculation aplenty.
Anyone know exactly what happened?
Anyone know exactly what happened?
Yacht collision with ship off Kent coast
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bikedaft
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http://gcaptain.com/two-rescued-after-yacht-collides-with-cargo-ship-in-english-channel/
speculate away... sounds like all are safe and well
speculate away... sounds like all are safe and well
Lucky Duck
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I expect we will soon be told had the yacht been made of steel than the ship would have needed rescuing instead 
rotrax
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I expect we will soon be told had the yacht been made of steel than the ship would have needed rescuing instead
Behave!
Dont upset our Canadian Cousin...................................
LittleSister
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I heard the CG’s end of some of the Mayday comms, but was too far away to hear the vessels involved.
42 foot catamaran,apparently.
42 foot catamaran,apparently.
Tomahawk
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Not much detail in the article.
Mast damaged but otherwise sound... which begs the question of why the crew needed to be rescued?
Mast damaged but otherwise sound... which begs the question of why the crew needed to be rescued?
Babylon
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Ta for the additional info.
We don’t know the exact circumstances of this, but the question did set me thinking: in a similar but hypothetical situation, assuming a ship was underway and my mast was entangled with it, would my first instinct be to hit the red button? I reckon yes.
We don’t know the exact circumstances of this, but the question did set me thinking: in a similar but hypothetical situation, assuming a ship was underway and my mast was entangled with it, would my first instinct be to hit the red button? I reckon yes.
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Tomahawk
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If I couldn't raise the other ship on VHF and was taking on water ... yes. But the report seems to indicate there was no significant damage.
Even the famous boat at Cowes who tangles with the coaster was happily floating after the collision... albeit sans rigging.
Even the famous boat at Cowes who tangles with the coaster was happily floating after the collision... albeit sans rigging.
Leighb
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If I recall the incident correctly it was a great deal bigger than a coaster!!
Triassic
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Wasn't there also some suggestion they were initially entangled? Given there was a 15-20 knot south westerly blowing Wednesday morning I'd imagine there would have been some sea state and I don't suppose a 42' catamaran bouncing alongside a 2,000 ton freighter would have inspired to much confidence in the survival of a glass fibre hull, or two........ and without knowing exactly where they were it's hard to comment where they would have ended up once free. Compared to the usual reasons for calling out a lifeboat, i.e." you've snagged your prop, the winds in the wrong direction, or you're just running late....... I'd say this one justified a message to the coastguard! I'm surprised nobody is asking if they had AIS yet......
lw395
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Calling Mayday/pressing the red button the moment collision seemed inevitable would be correct in my book.
Thistle
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+1. You can always downgrade it later.
dogleg
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press release from Dungeness LB ( on RNLI media centre website) shows pictures which suggest damage is more serious so much so that the 2 hulls had to be lashed together to enable a safe tow to Dover
Biggles Wader
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Triassic
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Goes without saying, real sailors would have been in a trimaran anyhow......A mere flesh wound. Only wimps and poofy snowflakes would need a lifeboat for that.
lw395
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Doesn't the word 'catamaran' mean the two hulls are lashed together?
savageseadog
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A conversion to two proper yachts
ShinyShoe
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I'd say this one justified a message to the coastguard! [/qupye]
From the description I had no doubt it was a red button.
Once you see the picture - I see no reason it wasn't red button...
(c) RNLI / RNLI Volunteer
OK - once you have everything secured and tied down and you are satisfied the boat isn't shipping water etc - you know there was no imminent danger of the vessel sinking. But it took at least 1hr 20 to get to that point.
Helo's don't stay for 40 minutes if they think its a scuff of paintwork.
No sign of a second craft on AIS.I'm surprised nobody is asking if they had AIS yet......
Nearest vessel appears to have been a Sail Training Vessel, which doesn't appear to divert. (no criticism intended)
Time line BST: (the ship)
03:30 10.6kts 247degrees, just North of the Traffic Separation Scheme but headed in the same direction as it and roughly in the same direction as the TSS But that makes sense for heading to Shoreham
03:40 10.8kts 248 degrees
03:50 10.7kts 250degrees (doesn't look so parallel to the TSS)
04:00 4.6kts 238degrees ##Did it slow and turn before the collision or after?}
04:10 0.6kts 167degrees == CG Tasks Lifeboat
04:20 0.4kts 104degrees
04:30 0.4kts 61degrees - now travelling (very slowly) - in completely the opposite dirrection to previous
04:40 0.6kts 64 degrees
04:50 0.8kts 49degrees
05:00 0.9kts 55degress = CG HELO on scene
05:10 0.9kts 59degrees + Helo
05:20 0.9kts 84degrees + Helo & LB on scene
05:30 0.9kts 41degrees + Helo + LB
05:40 6.9kts 140degrees - Helo Departing Scene (LB not tracked!)
Proceeds to Shoreham
Source: http://www.shipais.com/
Tomahawk
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In which case gCaptain is seriously wrong in their reporting. They make no mention of dismasting.
Seven Spades
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It looks as though the sails were up as they are partially unfurled on deck.
