Yacht cabin "eats" property

mjcoon

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We recently chartered a Beneteau Oceanis 41.1 in Greece for a fortnight. We were not surprised that its detailed design was for marina hopping in benign weather (which we sometimes got!).

But were caught out be a detailed feature of the cabin. The furniture fronts left a few cm gap to the cabin sole, so small items dropped to the floor, including cutlery and personal items, could roll through this gap and disappear. This would be merely irritating, but for the 2nd feature. The cabin sole did not continue to the hull line, but stopped a similar few cm behind the furniture front. This meant that items that made it through the gap could also drop down into the bilges.

Retrieval was then impossible without performing a Drug Squad destructive "rummage", because the bilges were divided into sections so the lifting sole panels gave no access to the heffalump traps.

Of course, if it were our own boat, besides berating Beneteau for their cheapskate boatbuilding we would stuff the gap with pipe insulation or similar. But that should not be necessary!
 

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Jeanneau stuffed a friends boat bilge (he bought a new one, go figure) with a spare undersink locker door. The also left a handy screwdriver inside the diesel tank that would roll around and occasionally block the intake. Took them a while to figure out why the engine sometimes stopped and then started again fine a few minutes later.
 

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We recently chartered a Beneteau Oceanis 41.1 in Greece for a fortnight. We were not surprised that its detailed design was for marina hopping in benign weather (which we sometimes got!).

But were caught out be a detailed feature of the cabin. The furniture fronts left a few cm gap to the cabin sole, so small items dropped to the floor, including cutlery and personal items, could roll through this gap and disappear. This would be merely irritating, but for the 2nd feature. The cabin sole did not continue to the hull line, but stopped a similar few cm behind the furniture front. This meant that items that made it through the gap could also drop down into the bilges.

Retrieval was then impossible without performing a Drug Squad destructive "rummage", because the bilges were divided into sections so the lifting sole panels gave no access to the heffalump traps.

Of course, if it were our own boat, besides berating Beneteau for their cheapskate boatbuilding we would stuff the gap with pipe insulation or similar. But that should not be necessary!
Did you take any pictures because I can’t visualise the gaps you’re describing? I have the slightly earlier 41 and it is a well constructed, contemporary boat.
 

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Did you take any pictures because I can’t visualise the gaps you’re describing? I have the slightly earlier 41 and it is a well constructed, contemporary boat.
No, sorry, did not occur to us (despite the time we spent trying to retrieve stuff) to take photos.

Instead I've tried to draw a crude cross-section. I presume that the weight of the units was taken by the carcasses extending to the sole at the corners; but I don't remember this detail.YachtCross-section.png
 

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No, sorry, did not occur to us (despite the time we spent trying to retrieve stuff) to take photos.

Instead I've tried to draw a crude cross-section. I presume that the weight of the units was taken by the carcasses extending to the sole at the corners; but I don't remember this detail.View attachment 137281
Many thanks for taking the time to draw the section. The 41 does not have this “feature”. I’ve never been on my hands and knees in a 41.1 so I can’t comment further but agree that it’s somewhat strange ?
 
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