Wind Farms

MoodySabre said:
Nuclear power stations are not an eyesore then :rolleyes:

I would rather look at open seas than wind farms but they are better at sea than on land. I prefer the ones in Scotland cos I can't see them.
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The thing is that these Windfarms aren't ever going to produce anything like enough Electricity to make the likes of Nuclear unnecessary and as a result we still get Nuclear power stations popping up AND windfarms.

If Nuclear is going to happen anyway, what's the point of wasting time, space, and money on Windfarms and just add the output of the windfarm to the Nuclear quota?
 
Given the option of a wind farm or nuclear plant as the view from a window, think I would probably go with a wind farm to be fair, so I can see why some near Bradwell would object. But practically speaking, yes, nuclear is more likely to do the job than wind any day.
 
Sixpence said:
Given the option of a wind farm or nuclear plant as the view from a window, think I would probably go with a wind farm to be fair, so I can see why some near Bradwell would object. But practically speaking, yes, nuclear is more likely to do the job than wind any day.
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I'd rather see a windmill than a Nuclear power station. A big part due to the fact if a windmill explodes I'll sigh and hope it didn't fall on anyone. If a Nuclear Power station goes c'boom if i'm still around i'd be in deep sh!t!

However it looks like we're getting Nuclear regardless of 'Windy Miller's ' actions.
 
Hi Folks,

Nationa Grid need to upgrade the transmission system to serve off-shore wind generation.Two of the proposed routes would involve building new 46.5 metre high pylons and overhead power lines between Ipswich and Twinstead across presently unspoilt rural countryside .This will have a mssive impact on the landscape and will be detrimental to the people who live in and visit these areas.
While I admire the engineering and philosophy of alternative energy generation it comes at a high price. I do wonder if the full implications of off shore wind farms has been fully considered

Robert
 
saltyrob said:
Hi Folks,

Nationa Grid need to upgrade the transmission system to serve off-shore wind generation.Two of the proposed routes would involve building new 46.5 metre high pylons and overhead power lines between Ipswich and Twinstead across presently unspoilt rural countryside .This will have a mssive impact on the landscape and will be detrimental to the people who live in and visit these areas.
While I admire the engineering and philosophy of alternative energy generation it comes at a high price. I do wonder if the full implications of off shore wind farms has been fully considered

Robert
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Now I don't think this is really helping my slightly negetive opinion of these 'whirly sticks'
 
MoodySabre said:
Nuclear power stations are not an eyesore then :rolleyes:
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Now I didn't say they weren't an eyesore...just that I would prefer one relatively innocuous Bradwell in preference to a windfarm covering all of the Gunfleet/Long Sands/Scrobies etc etc

MoodySabre said:
I would rather look at open seas than wind farms
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Well, that is something we will not disagree over!!

MoodySabre said:
I prefer the ones in Scotland cos I can't see them.
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Again, if we really have to have wind farms I would much rather see them sited at Studland Bay, the Gower Peninsular, Berkshire etc etc!! Put them somewhere where the yottie masses can appreciate them!!
 
saltyrob said:
Hi Folks,

Nationa Grid need to upgrade the transmission system to serve off-shore wind generation.Two of the proposed routes would involve building new 46.5 metre high pylons and overhead power lines between Ipswich and Twinstead across presently unspoilt rural countryside .This will have a mssive impact on the landscape and will be detrimental to the people who live in and visit these areas.
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Now that has been kept very, very quiet!! Dong Energy seem to have forgotten mention of these minor 46.5 metre land based pylons!!!
 
Fire99 said:
My gut feeling is 'nice in theory but in practice, pointless'

I think they look bleedin awful Yep they are generating some work etc so that has to be applauded but i'm guessing that once the total cost of ownership from the original plan to the decomissioning of the dead ones, they won't of made a significant impact on our Energy uses but a significant effect on the East Coast coastline.

I think their only real impact will be on the 'willy waving' by the Government to other countries to say how 'Modern' and 'Green' we are when infact the environmental improvement will be virtually nil.
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This is my gut feel too. The numbers just dont add up, however the politics absolutely does. Give the public something nice to look at and it will win us some votes too. Its the result of the short term vote winning political framework that we have as a government.

Steps off the soap box and goes to make a cup of tea, leaving this place as it should be, calm, quiet and non-lounge like.
 
Thee problem with nuclear power stations other than the problems of disposing the used fuel etc

is that they are running out of Uranium,its estimated that at current levels there is only 35 years supply left

the wind farms can only be placed in areas of shallow sea,so forget the Scottish west coast.

What i cant undestand is why no one has figured out how to use the tide to drive turbines in the same manner of hydro electric power
 
bastonjock said:
What i cant undestand is why no one has figured out how to use the tide to drive turbines in the same manner of hydro electric power
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There are a number of pilot schemes being trialled in different areas around the coast, the latest one went rather wrong off Southwold recently when the barge carrying it out to the site capsized, but it is expected to be on station later this year. I am sure in a year or two they will have got it working full scale somewhere.

The French of course have done it already, there is a working tidal barrage scheme on the Atlantic coast somewhere Brittany? I expect someone more knowledgable will come up with more accurate info.
 
worst of all worlds

Can't help thinking that residents of St Osyth have the worst of all worlds - look one way and they see Bradwell Power Station... look out to sea and it's the Gunfleet Sand Wind Farm.
 
LeighB

tha HE installation is called the Rance Barrage

http://www.edf.fr/html/en/decouvertes/voyage/usine/retour-usine.html


It's not all roses, as the dam has caused severe silting in parts of the estuary above the structure, and some species of fish, such as the sand eel, have disappeared.



TIDAL POWER
Parahandy of this and other parishes is knowledgeable on the subject. See
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144598#


I suspect that the principal feature of wind farms which attracts politicos is the fact that you can look at them and hear them (when they are working !) and get a nice warm self-satisfied feeling. Whereas tidal power just keeps rolling monotonously along unseen.
 
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Cobra said:
As I have said before and I will say again...the best place for any such wind farm is NOT in the shifting sand banks of the East Coast, but in the emminently more suited areas like the Gower Peninsular, maybe Studland Bay, could be Chichester Harbour, anywhere on the West Coast of Scotland...maybe even somewhere in central Berkshire, just PLEASE leave the East Coast alone!!

They are an eyesore, and as has been said, they are NOT an economical way of producing electricity.

Lets have another Bradwell!!
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WE don't want them up here, we've got more than enough electricity thanks.

QUOTE: "Scotland is already able to meet electricity demand and still export electricity to England and Northern Ireland"

http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/b...e/inquiries/rei/ec04-reis-scottishsociety.htm
 
I've been lurking on this therad for a while, It's been a pleasure to watch a serious discussion taking place on a subject like this without decent into some of the vitriol that has been seen elsewhere.

My View? I'm ambivalent about the farms themselves, but I'm still to be convinced that they are a serious long term and cost effective solution. I think the politics are driving them, and therefore will be dropped as soon as they are no longer vote winners.

I'll now drop back into my usual mode, making occasional inane comments about Moodysabre's age :)
 
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