Will I make it!?

Problem is you are looking at fuel consumption from a car perspective, which is fair enough as that is your relevant experience.

Thing is unlike a car the 'road' a boat uses is also moving in one direction or another. Add to that relatively low friction and wind also starts to play its part.

A litres or gallons per mile calculation isn't really the thing to look at, and you certainly won't get that out of the engine manufacturer. What you should be considering is litres per hour at given RPM and then work out your boat speed in neutral water at those rpm. Once you know that you can look at the tidal flows along your route and either add or deduct the tidal influence (often will be a vector as it's unlikely to be dead ahead or astern unless going up a river) from/to your neutral speed.

Once you know all that you then have wind and seas state which can either slow you down or speed you up. It for this last reason that a 20% reserve on your fuel really should be the minimum as that only really allows a variance of a few knots either way! which isn't much.

If your boat is comfortable at 24knts for a cruise for example, your trip is going to take you just under 7 hours. I reckon on your boat this sort of speed is going to be around 54l/hour (taken from some us figures I found). So with no adverse affects or assistance you are looking at a fuel burn of 360l (total time is 6hr 36min).

That gives you a 10% reserve.

You could drop the speed to 20-21knts and 4000rpm and maybe use 38lph but your travel time increases to 8 hours. Fuel usage would be a more practical 305l, which offers you a sensible reserve. Though it's still tight if you lost just 2 knots due to tide or wind or both you burn an extra 30 litres. You can see now why a 10% reserve is too tight.

In my opinion it's doable, but you need to get accurate figures for your boat and it's definitely not a mornings blast. At WOT your engine is sucking 100l/hour and there is no way your boat will be doing in excess of 40knts to avoid running dry very short
 
Thanks for the support! I have absolutely no deadline so there is no need to rush into the voyage. Was planning on waiting for a perfect forecast if there such a thing. I will take crew to share the helm
 
Thanks for the detail whitelighter. The morning blast was said tongue in cheek to cheer up sailorboy. Didn't work! My rough sums came in at eight hours. I figured planing comfortably at the lowest revs was the most economical way to go.

I'm still probably erring towards road transport. The engine only has 75 hours. Probably not really run in, so it may drink more fuel than expected. The lack of second engine/sails also nags
 
Why are you looking at doing it in one go if there are no time constraints? You have Neyland and Pwllheli en route that both have petrol, so you don't need to do it on one tank of fuel. You also have Aberystwyth en route as an alternative safe port and no doubt a suitably nearby road side garage. Do it over three days and enjoy it!

The trip is perfectly doable given the right weather and planning but I don't think you'd enjoy yourself doing it in one go, even if it were possible.
 
Why are you looking at doing it in one go if there are no time constraints? You have Neyland and Pwllheli en route that both have petrol, so you don't need to do it on one tank of fuel. You also have Aberystwyth en route as an alternative safe port and no doubt a suitably nearby road side garage. Do it over three days and enjoy it!

The trip is perfectly doable given the right weather and planning but I don't think you'd enjoy yourself doing it in one go, even if it were possible.
Now I hear there are possible stopping places I give this a big +1
if at all possible I would do the trip, it will give you confidence in the boat and a real story to look back on as you stare out of the window at the snow. I had never owned a really lively planing boat before this one (yachts and a heavy semi displacement mobo before) and the first time it went up on the plane it terrified me. three days after I was comfortable with the motion and the speed and really enjoying myself as I tried to figure out how to bring a single screw shaft drive boat with no keel into a marina!!
 
Right, looks like my 'morning blast' is turning in to a week long cruise up the Welsh coast!

Thanks for all the replies. One last question, how do I turn off the email alerts every time I receive a reply to the thread!?
 
Right, looks like my 'morning blast' is turning in to a week long cruise up the Welsh coast!

Thanks for all the replies. One last question, how do I turn off the email alerts every time I receive a reply to the thread!?
I think it is settings/general settings/default subscription mode/never. I find the emails useful because generally I am contributing to an existing post and like to know when someone has chipped in, Its usually only when you start a thread that you get the cascade of messages, especially on an interesting topic like yours.
 
Thanks for the detail whitelighter. The morning blast was said tongue in cheek to cheer up sailorboy. Didn't work! My rough sums came in at eight hours. I figured planing comfortably at the lowest revs was the most economical way to go.

I'm still probably erring towards road transport. The engine only has 75 hours. Probably not really run in, so it may drink more fuel than expected. The lack of second engine/sails also nags
It would take more than that stupid ****ing statement to cheer me up :encouragement:
 
Hi everyone

I have just put a deposit down on an antares 8.8 with the Suzuki df300.
The boat is near Swansea and I want to get it up to Caernarfon. Distance is around 160nm.

Who thinks I'll make it in one go?

Do you want a crew member? I think its is doable, you can bung some tubs of fuel onboard
 
Earlier this year i did a similar trip all be it the other way round, pwllheli to upton on severn.. the part from pwllheli to portishead took about 11/12 hours in a f4/5 and we averaged 20ish knots and went through all seasons(so it seemed) even heavy hail and fork lightnining! By the time we reached p/head we'd had enough for one day.. and that was at the end of june on a supposed calm summers day in a sealine t47!!
Definately worth doing by sea just make sure everythings perfect;-)
 
Can't believe the interest and all the replies I've had!
Kawasaki, hopefully Victoria dock, will know next week. The shallow draught is a bonus! If not it's going to be conwy.

To be honest, probably going to have it shipped up by road. For the price of a tank of fuel I am hoping to piggy back on to a return trip with Jim Rickets. Any one had any experience with this guy? All the reviews I've read have been favourable.
 
Can't believe the interest and all the replies I've had!
Kawasaki, hopefully Victoria dock, will know next week. The shallow draught is a bonus! If not it's going to be conwy.

To be honest, probably going to have it shipped up by road. For the price of a tank of fuel I am hoping to piggy back on to a return trip with Jim Rickets. Any one had any experience with this guy? All the reviews I've read have been favourable.

By road you boring Git! :p
Rickets is ok
Makes you Scratch a bit though!!
:D:D
 
Been quoted £595 for a 'return' trip. 400l of petrol isn't going to be that much less.

Kawasaki, once I've settled in, wouldn't mind a guide through the straits! You will be rewarded with beer and crisps.
 
Help you bring it up if yer want
Shove yer crisps (unless they r Marmite ones) and yer can stuff yer beer, large Whiskey if we arrive or near enough!!!
 
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