why give up deck space to store air?

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There is no way I am spending £200k to store a tender, lose deck space and gain another set of heads to clean.


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Do you not have servants quarters /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Look at these pictures to see what I mean about waste of space, all Cranchi's up to the 50, the last two pics are of mine the Zaffiro 34 (11.2mtrs in real life)

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All I seem to be paying for is a 'growth' on the back, the dolly birds aren't even included /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif and that lump costs a minimum £200k up to £380k more for the 50 /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
I have been checking out the sun pads to try and see which look more comfortable /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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I've not seen the boat yet, but talking to the Cranchi staff at Southampton there is a new 43 that will be at London. They said it will not have a garage but seating all the way to the back and have the new IPS 600 drives. Just had a look on the website and it is showing pictures of it, [image]http://www.cranchi.com/foto.aspx?img=download/desktop/med%2043/osservala/05.jpg[/image]

got it from cranchi.it
 
I cant get the picture in the post, but www.cranchi.it Then select 43 under master yacht and there are 6 or so thumbnails that show it. There doesnt seem to be a garage. If anyone can get a picture on the forum then please do, i dont understand how to do it. ta
 
That is the boat that I flew out to Italy to see the day it was launched, I didn't like it at all due to the 'Zanussi' look, neither did swmbo, not much more room than what we have at the moment and a lot of wasted bathing platform space, so decided to look bigger, that's where the garage problem arises.
 
ah well , I like garages, keeps the dinghy out of the way and the place looking a bit smoother than roofrackified dinghies perched on swim platforms (need to dump dinghy to swim) or on flybridge which doesn't look as good. I spose also it makes a difference in med, stern to the pontoon. Pumping up bigger dinghies isn't an option. Dinghy gagrages can hold other stuff like motorbikes or motors scooters, oor generators, spare dinghies spare outboards, waterskiing gear, spare anchors, fishing rods....
 
As I said in an earlier post, garages on massive boats like yours are not a problem, it's when they are fitted to the smaller boats and the likes of the 47's and 50 that they sacrifice good cockpit space for them. I don't know when garages first appeared on boats and how they were received then, seems just a very expensive shed on a smaller boat.
 
>Sealine I'm afraid that is not my cup of tea at all

I quite like the S38, but hey, each to his own.

The Princess V42 would give you some extra space. Available with or without the dreaded tender garage. Also, has the D6-350's as an engine option, which would mean 40kts ish...

If you want a "new" design, Fairline are bringing out the Targa 44 GT, with a sliding hard top, and no tender garage.

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I thought it was a ridiculas suggestion and Pete was right to egnor it /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif; the dinghy garage space would be far better utilized for accomadating a spare engine 300 hp should do it.
Then when the Zodiac gets wrapped around both Port and starboard engines you just fire up the centre auxilary and off you go. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
origin of the species

afaik, the first garage on vaguley ornery sized boats was on a sunseeker Carmargue, 55 feet i think. But do they really steal deck space? I thort the idea on many of them is that the roof of the garage is a sunpad, so not really "wasted" as such.

Pics look good - and no cluttery dinghies on the sterns? That's the main advantage i spose.
 
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Yeah but sunpad a bit useless in rainy old Blighty. However nobody has pointed out one possible advantage of tender garage in that storing tender on davits or bathing platform extends length of boat for marina measuring purposes so might save a few bob on mooring fees
 
Pete,

As a tender Garage I agree that in the UK they have limited use. However they do allow for extra deck storage. I have never been a fan in the UK of these, but recently reviewed several at SIBS.

We half changed our mind on them. As a garage we are agreed they are too small for a decent inflatable so only good for storage. However we noted that the Seating Dinning areas which have been created because of the Garage can be better than boats which have two areas and no garage. Of particular note were the Atlantis 42 and Absolute 45. These both only had a single area on deck due to tender garage but that area was fab. You could easily seat 6 around it and a few others could lounge on the pad. The quality was fantastic.

It did change our perception of the 'waste of space' issue with them.
Just a thought

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I was searching for a V42 when looking for my present boat but all the ones I found had the tender garage option. I had a look at the Windy, the new 42 has a garage but in truth I think we need to find something special to replace what we have already and make the jump worthwhile, we will keep the next boat for a good couple of years so want to make sure it's the right one. The speed I have been upgrading has made me a bit dizzy, it would be nice to settle down with a boat for a year or so and get to know it, it's just getting rid of that urge to plan another project and the excitement that goes with it in finding the perfect solution of size and requirements, but as soon as you achieve that your requirements increase, so where does it end? /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

So what is the perfect boat for the average family, with ability to single hand, good hull, well built, traditional styling (no plastic Zanussi nonsense), great performance, seperate cabins, no tender garage, social cockpit seating, acceptable as a visitor in most marinas without pre booking and good visability from the helm?

All help appreciated /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Just had a quick look, there are several V42's available with no garage, including a nice 2003 with a blue hull band, KAD 300's and an integrated toaster.
 
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So what is the perfect boat for the average family, with ability to single hand, good hull, well built, traditional styling (no plastic Zanussi nonsense), great performance, seperate cabins, no tender garage, social cockpit seating, acceptable as a visitor in most marinas without pre booking and good visability from the helm?

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Er, I don't know whether I dare say this but a Broom ticks every one of those boxes without fail even on the performance front as most do or get close to 30 knots. Massive space inside plus an excellent aft helm position (command station, they call it) which makes single handing dead easy but still gives good viz and protection from the elements

OK, I'm ready. Flame me
 
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imho, tender garages on sub 45 footers seem as wasted as bowthrusters on 25 footers!.

Correct, 55 was first with tender garage.
 
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