Who went ashore for a liquid lunch?

Helideck placed far too high for safety. The rolling moment is hugely increased with height which is why miltary decks are as close to the water as possible.
Combined with the all too frequent inattention to religiously employing tie-downs no matter the weather - add a bit of swell, a bit of wind, maybe a bit of a sudden turn and wups! your lovely new Ec135, all beautifully wrapped up in its tailored pyjamas totters and goes for the deep six. Just because some numptie didn't attach the tie-downs.

Own goal, Mr Moneypots. Employ Professionals in future perhaps?
 
Hiya Slowboat. Get your point about tiedowns.....looks a bit carelesss. But arent nearly all superyachts configured like that for a helicopter landing area?
 
Of course we are assuming he intended to land there. What if he was mistaken and chose the wrong superyacht :rolleyes:

The RN did land a Harrier on a container ship a while back, wasn't a lot left of the van or ISO container after the blast from the jet engines.
 
Re Pete's link, this comment is a gem.

"The aircraft began to slide backwards on the wet surface as he touched down, with a source telling Forces TV the captain of the Alraigo may have panicked at the last minute, jolting the ship as the plane landed and thus causing the slide."

How does one suddenly 'jolt' a container ship?

I know that there has been a big hoo-hah about replacements for the Harriers, but in a nutshell, why could they not have kept the Harrier design and improved it (if it did need any further 'improvement')?
 
I know that there has been a big hoo-hah about replacements for the Harriers, but in a nutshell, why could they not have kept the Harrier design and improved it (if it did need any further 'improvement')?

If I told you they had all just been through a 300m refit programme would you be disappointed? Still at least the USMC were delighted to buy them.
 
I’m not sure but I think for ship military ops helicopters have the ability for negative pitch - ie instead of lift they can pull negative lift to keep it in the deck until tied down.

I had one incident - fortunately I had very few. I’d flown an R22 - see the other thread! - to a turbine job, spent several hours flying a nice powerful jet helicopter around Left to go home in the R22 and accepted an ATC clearance which would have been easy in the jet - almost took out the perimeter fence with the R22 skids as it didn’t climb quite as quick!

W.
 
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I know that there has been a big hoo-hah about replacements for the Harriers, but in a nutshell, why could they not have kept the Harrier design and improved it (if it did need any further 'improvement')?
Theres only so many times you can take an aircraft design from the 1960's and keep tweaking it until it all goes wrong.


Err......
 
Theres only so many times you can take an aircraft design from the 1960's and keep tweaking it until it all goes wrong.


Err......

It was all about money (of course).

The program HMG embarked upon of building the two huge white elephant aircraft carriers left the RN with no fixed wing capability since 2006 until the F35Bs become fully operational on HMS Queen Elizabeth.

The Harriers may have been a bit long in the tooth, but as Pete 7 points out, they had just been expensively refitted, and surely would have been better than nothing ?
 
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