Which yachts up to 38' have an inside steering position?

I have a Degero 31DS, bought last year and did me and my wife proud during our leisurely cruise along S coast, Scillies and then across to Ireland. Would strongly recommend if inside steering is a requirement. Lose out a bit on sleeping accommodation but otherwise excellent.

PM me if you want any more information or a chat.
 
2 not mentioned so far- both with semi enclosed Coaster 33 and Halberdier. There is a cracking Halberdier for sale on Yachtsnet just now. and a coaster 33 which belongs to the designer Alan Hill- go to Yacht market and enter coaster 33
 
We just have a full cockpit tent, this actually adds living space to the bioat and allows shirt sleave sailing in poor weather.

That should widen your choice
 
planteater said:
Wheel and tiller on my 22'er. It makes perfect sense on a motor-sailer.The wheel takes up no space at all.
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Sorry, I forgot to exclude rowing boats :p

When I had a 22' Swin Ranger I drilled into the AH1000 and remoted out the control switches to a switch panel by the wheel, it was much more responsive than trying to sail on the wheel through teleflex cables.
 
LadyInBed said:
Why would you want an inside steering position?
- It takes up space
- You have to double up on cables and controls

Go for a good autopilot on the steering quadrant and a remote control, what could be better and it is much more versatile.
- Tend to something up the bow
- put out fenders
- adjust / take in sails
and you can still steer.
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When I was deciding what to build I looked at a cat that had an inside steering position but the owner had removed it as unnecessary.

I decided to save myself the trouble and just put an autopilot repeater over the chart table so I can steer without going outside. I don't have inside engine controls but I can always duck out of the door if I need to stop suddenly.

I would say the essential is not an inside wheel but a position where you can sit comfortably and have near 360° vision.
 
Some of the Prout cats provided reasonable all round visibility from below, although wheel in cockpit. My Quest 31 had a hard top over the forward end of the cockpit and I sailed the length of Britain a couple of times solo, mainly keeping watch from the cabin or sheltered cockpit with windvane or autopilot steering. Only needed waterproofs if going on deck in the rain.
Current Voyager 35 allows similar comfort, though some are fitted with an inside wheel. I just have the autopilot control in the cockpit, and within reach from the cabin door.
 
I have owned two yachts with inside steering positions. Both had wheels.

I have never 'steered a wheel' from inside.

What you will end up doing is trimming the sails, slapping on the Autohelm and going below to your warm and dry pilothouse/deck saloon where you can keep a reasonable lookout and make adjustments via a remote Autohelm panel. If under sail or motorsailing you will keep an eye on the main through the hatch above theesteering position.

Furthermore, anything above a 10 deg heel becomes silly on a helmsmans seat as your arse is gradually forced off it!

Some yachts - such as the Vancouver Pilot House 34 and 38 - have an option of wheel or no wheel but they still have inside steering positions!
 
<< I have never 'steered a wheel' from inside.

What you will end up doing is trimming the sails, slapping on the Autohelm and going below to your warm and dry pilothouse/deck saloon where you can keep a reasonable lookout and make adjustments via a remote Autohelm panel. If under sail or motorsailing you will keep an eye on the main through the hatch above theesteering position.

Furthermore, anything above a 10 deg heel becomes silly on a helmsmans seat as your arse is gradually forced off it! >>


I haven't owned them but I have chartered them. I had the same experience; never used the inside position.

I prefer an open doghouse type Salar 40 which is also less likely to engender sea-sickness.

An Amel Sharki brings the quality element as well.
 
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I have a deck-saloon ketch, with practically complete duplication of all controls, instruments etc. I never sail from inside, but if the weather is cold and nasty, and we are motoring, then yes, we do it from inside, and with toasty heating from the engine.:)
 
Any one mentioned the 'double decker' yet - the Victory 40? Another 'best of both worlds' job.

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Shuggy said:
Nicholson 38 if budget's a constraint!

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I nearly bought one recently.

I've sailed hundreds of sea and ocean miles in one and they are definatly a 'wolf in sheeps clothing'. A real sailboat rather than what they may look to be ... a motor sailor.

My main reason for not buying is that I don't like being shut in too much, although with the right canvas/window surrounds they can be opened up to the screen and roof and even the roof was originally able to be taken off and mounted on the saloon cabin if you wished.

I know of one for sale in Sardinia which is as yet not advertised and all seemed good from the photos I was sent.
You could have a bit left over in your budget to bring everything well up to date??
 
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