Which yachts do marine surveyors buy?

[Greenheart]

Or, have they usually learned their lesson and swallowed the anchor?

I wonder if there's a tendency for a particular brand to be favoured by sailing surveyors...presumably on account of the engineering/manufacturing quality.

Or are some marques typically better-maintained than others, hence they're better than the rest when they're 10/20/30 years old...or do surveyors only buy new?

 

[charles_reed]

Two had SS34, one a Rival 38 - most of the others I've known have had the good sense to not own a boat - they go sailing on others'.

 

[jerrytug]

Nick Vass, an extremely experienced yacht surveyor (and nice geyser) on the S.Coast/W.Country, chose...a Hurley 24/70, just like me!

 

[Paddingtonbear]

Nick Vass, an extremely experienced yacht surveyor (and nice geyser) on the S.Coast/W.Country, chose...a Hurley 24/70, just like me!

Does he provide constant hot water as well . Most surveyors in my limited experience don't know one end of a boat from another so I no longer trust the judgement of any of them, Dominic Buckley of this parish excepted of course.

 

[TimBennet]

Most surveyors in my limited experience don't know one end of a boat from another

Perhaps not most, but sadly a significant number certainly. I also think a high proportion of them aren't actually interested in either sailing or even boats!

 

[catalac08]

My surveyor lusted after a Trader MB for years and years. I eventually bumped into him in a marina with his new boat, a Trader-he was like a dog with...2 tails!

 

[Searush]

If they have any sense & want a boat they will get one that suits their specific needs.


You keep asking these "best boat" type questions but ignore all the answers that tell you that there as many "best boat designs" as here are people with different requirements.

 

[mtb]

colvic 26 sailer of course

 

[jwilson]

We have sold two yachts to yacht surveyors.

One was multi-chine 43 ft steel, built by the owner who was an engineer who ran a steel fabrication company. Hull excellent, mechanical and electrical systems beautifully fitted out with longevity and ease of maintenance in mind, but the internal joinery and other internal cosmetics were reminiscent of an easy-clean abattoir.

The other was a 36 ft classic IOR era fin and skeg cruiser-racer that had had a very easy cruising life and looked like a five year old boat instead of the actual 35 years.

I know one surveyor with a 100+ year old wooden yacht, and two with far from new 24/25 footers.

http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/

 

[jerrytug]

Does he provide constant hot water as well . Most surveyors in my limited experience don't know one end of a boat from another so I no longer trust the judgement of any of them, Dominic Buckley of this parish excepted of course.

Hi, since going back to one of my favourite books, "Surveying Small Craft", by Ian Nicolson, I can confirm my first impressions of your gaily ill-informed witterings as a spurt of wrongly wrong drivel.

 

[jerrytug]

Perhaps not most, but sadly a significant number certainly. I also think a high proportion of them aren't actually interested in either sailing or even boats!

Rereading my excellent book written by a yacht surveyor, I can go straight to the kill. You are posting utter c0ck, try and keep it to yourself in future, cheers Jerry.

 

[RichardTaylor]

Rereading my excellent book written by a yacht surveyor, I can go straight to the kill. You are posting utter c0ck, try and keep it to yourself in future, cheers Jerry.

My father in law lost the sale of his wooden boat due to the total ignorance of the purchaser's surveyor, who quoted types of wood and build methods which were totally not applicable to the vessel. The guy might have been a surveyor but certainly knew nothing about wooden boats.

 

[l'escargot]

The last surveyor I used also builds and repairs wooden and GRP boats. He still sails the 34 foot wooden yacht he built himself over 30 years ago.

 

[TimBennet]

Rereading my excellent book written by a yacht surveyor, I can go straight to the kill. You are posting utter c0ck, try and keep it to yourself in future, cheers Jerry.

Dear Jerry - I don't care if you've read a book. After a lifetime of working professionally with hundreds of surveyors around the world, I stand my my observation that a significant number of people who do small craft surveys are not enthusiastic boat owners or boaters.

 

[jerrytug]

I am probably innocent of the real world of boat surveying, and you have got me worried as my next yacht will need a pro survey. Sorry I said you were talking rubbish, it's just rather shocking..

 

[Daydream believer]

A yacht broker will look for someone desperate to sell. He will deliberately keep it unsold on the books claiming a number of people have looked but for various reasons rejected. He will advise that the price is reduced radically.
He will then get a mate to buy it & later pass to him for a "drink" or " bonus"
He will keep the yacht for a couple of years then sell at a profit & repeat the process
Type of yacht is not a major consideration so long as it looks as though he is a sailing man with loads of experience to give future customers advice with confidence
I have seen similar with estate agents so i am sure some brokers, not all, are no different

 

[Greenheart]

I thought this was about surveyors, not brokers? Something's badly wrong if the former aren't reliably independent, surely?

 

[markhomer]

Hi, since going back to one of my favourite books, "Surveying Small Craft", by Ian Nicolson, I can confirm my first impressions of your gaily ill-informed witterings as a spurt of wrongly wrong drivel.

Ian nicholson owns rival 34 , previously sigma 33 , and before who nose , but a least a few of his own design and build , another clyde surveyor of renown jim mcilwraith sails a beautiful holman and pye yawl , successfully designed built and campaigned his own design boats .


Guess we,re lucky up here to have surveyors that know their stuff , and more than two mentioned above .

 

[l'escargot]

A yacht broker will look for someone desperate to sell. He will deliberately keep it unsold on the books claiming a number of people have looked but for various reasons rejected. He will advise that the price is reduced radically.
He will then get a mate to buy it & later pass to him for a "drink" or " bonus"
He will keep the yacht for a couple of years then sell at a profit & repeat the process
Type of yacht is not a major consideration so long as it looks as though he is a sailing man with loads of experience to give future customers advice with confidence
I have seen similar with estate agents so i am sure some brokers, not all, are no different

I haven't met many brokers with capital to tie up in a boat like that - that's why they are brokers and not dealers - and in my experience boats generally depreciate over the years, especially the ones sat about not being used.

 

[Deleted member 36384]

Ian nicholson .......

..... and wrote some excellent books on his discipline as well as yacht improvements, he is of course a naval architect as well, I am glad he sails a Rival a man that can discern the relevant qualities that are important in yachts.